Cool thanks for the info man! Not looking for a race engine, I am deciding between a Challenger ( hopped up of course) and the Z28, which is supposed to have the LSA, and reports I have heard have it running ~520 RWHP stock, and 600+ with tune, headers, intake and pulley. this car (whichever it may be)will be my toy, and a reward for going back to school at 36 and finally finishing my degree (anyone looking for Network Admins in the central illinois/st.louis area?

) so I am in essence looking for the baddest, streetable car I can afford.