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: 1970 challenger R/T 440 6 pack, pistol grip 4 speed*panther pink


mehNWY
04-26-2009, 04:35 PM
Hello everyone..I need some information...im going to a salvage dealer sale on wednesday......they have a 1970 challenger R/T with a 440 6 pack and pistol grip 4 speed...paint is panther pink.....its about 95% complete..number matching car (http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/#) with matching vin code and trim tag. the right paint...white interior...it was in a flood in the owners garage and he almost had it complete.....looks like new and you cant tell that it has been flooded...looks to me that it only needs the breather and master cylinder/brake booster to be done.....my question......what is this car worth?..im not really afraid of the flood situation....the title will say rebuilt of course because of it...but i dont want to go to deep.........any ideas?...my email is rgates61@sbcglobal.net

djwhog
04-26-2009, 04:44 PM
mail sent :)

mehNWY
04-26-2009, 07:41 PM
this is a 340 6 pack car.....not a 440

onecatnodog
04-26-2009, 08:21 PM
If it's a 6 pack small block factory car it has to have JOB in the vin # and that would make it a T/A not a R/T... Worth some money but with a salvage title will be harder to sell.. Just my opinion... onecatnodog

Trukcrazy
04-26-2009, 08:30 PM
If it is a Panther Pink R/t or T/A or just a plain Challenger, it should be worth saving. If you look at a recent issue of Hemmings Muscle Machines, I think, It shows a 1 of 4 or 5 PP 4speed 440 car and that there weren't but a handful of PP cars made anyway. This should be interesting. Good luck. :bigthumb:

SteveRT09
04-26-2009, 08:37 PM
Was this flood salt water or fresh water? It's gonna matter down the road if every electrical connection and hidden body crevice saw salt.

modtopcuda
04-26-2009, 09:48 PM
I would strip the car and clean the crap out of it. Panther pink T/A's are actually pretty common. Probably the model that had the highest percentage pink cars

brian70809
04-26-2009, 10:57 PM
I went through a ton of stuff on a Challenger TA that I bought..

1st though.. If you dont' have the build sheet, you cannot trust that fender tag.. There are a lot of people that will fake these cars.. Fender tags can be made. If you have the paper build sheet, then that is great! If you can find the original dealership it was purchased at and they are still around, sometimes you can get the original sales information.. This verifies your cars authenticity.

If it's a real TA, there are a few things to look at..

Pull up the rug.. behind the drivers seat it should say "TA Program" written in black marker... On the floor pan..

If it's a non-California car.. check the exhaust hangers.. They are welded onto the floorpans and distinctive.. I can send you pictures of what they are supposed to look like..

Also.. I believe there are a few places where the last 2 digits of your Vin will be stamped.. One is right underneath the windshield? I think one is right in front of the radiator on the black metal...

Look for a rear swaybar.. It is huge.. like 1 to 1-1/4" in diameter.. Front brakes are huge too.. I think 11.8" disks.. rear are Drums.. HUGE drums..

The engine block will say 340 TA on the side in raised print.. then the side of the block should have your cars vin on it near the oil pan..

Also.. if you can life the valve cover off.. the valvetrain is unique.. it has offset and adjustable rocker arms... totally different than the stock 340 stamped metal ones..

it's a lot to digest..

Here is pic of bottom of a TA:

mehNWY
04-27-2009, 05:48 AM
well with some help from a guy on another site i think we have determined that this car is suppose to be a 340 4 barrel car with a 4 speed, panther pink......but it does have a 440 6 pack in it with a pistol grip 4 speed, no consoleand it does have R/T badges on it....far as the flood goes...you cant tell it.....it doesnt smell inside at all...i need to figure out how much this should be worth before wednesday.....heres the vin/trim tag info, i would welcome anyones input: 1H23H0E142606
trim tag:
Y05 26 EN1
C55 V21 J54 M21 N41 N42
FM3 R11 A66 R51 G33 J25
FM3 H6XW 000 428 0445 41
E55 D21 JN23 H0E 142606

RTLover
04-27-2009, 06:09 AM
Are you the only one looking? Where is this located(in general)? Whats the asking price?
There will probably be other people interested that don't care about originality.
A car is only worth what other people will pay for it. Be on your toes!
I have sold pieces of crap Challengers for good money.

Trukcrazy
04-27-2009, 07:30 AM
To update my previous post, according to an article in Hemmings Muscle machines, issue #66 from march 2009, There were 76,935 1970 Challengers built. Of those only 90 are known to be PP. The only breakdown past that is that only 5 Panther Pink 440 Six Pack R/Ts are known to exist today. Even if it started out with a 225 but was originally PP, it would be one of 90. sounds good to me either way. Good luck. :bigthumb:

kylem4711
04-27-2009, 09:39 PM
i would also like to know what the asking is

modtopcuda
04-27-2009, 11:14 PM
Well it is just a Challenger. Not an R/T. It is a 340 4 speed and is a real panther pink white interior car. Like I said. I don't think the pink 70 Challengers are worth anymore because there are a lot of them compared to other cars. Being a non R/T or T/A may be a little rarer for the color but. don't have my decoder books on me but it is a stripped car. Not worth much. worth more as a clone. IMHO

Trukcrazy
04-28-2009, 12:29 AM
Well it is just a Challenger. Not an R/T. It is a 340 4 speed and is a real panther pink white interior car. Like I said. I don't think the pink 70 Challengers are worth anymore because there are a lot of them compared to other cars. Being a non R/T or T/A may be a little rarer for the color but. don't have my decoder books on me but it is a stripped car. Not worth much. worth more as a clone. IMHO
So there were more than 90 built in 1970? That means that Hemmings article is wrong. Just how many PP 70 Challengers were built?

mehNWY
04-28-2009, 12:44 PM
Well i guess i will find out tomorrow...car has a pre bid of $10,000 as of today but it will bring alot more tomorrow on sale day......if i buy it i will put it up for sale immediately...i am a dealer so i will have to collect tax..im hoping to be able to sell it for less than $25,000 if i get it and still make some money for my investment

mehNWY
04-28-2009, 12:46 PM
by appearance it has had a ground up restoration that looks to be done right and all it needs is the breather and master cylinder/booster to be finished

72hemi
04-28-2009, 01:02 PM
In 1970 there were no small block R/T cars built. This car is what is known as an A66 car, which in itself is fairly rare. The A66 package is a 340 engine upgraded brakes and suspension usually a bumble bee wrap around rear stripe (unless deleted) scat pack bee stickers in the quarter windows, R/T hood and 15 inch wheels. Being a 4 speed and a panther pink car with white interior is extremely rare, probably the only one built or one of a small hand full. I have an A66 car, but mine is a plum crazy purple white stripe 4 speed car, also one of only a handfull built. Good luck and I hope this helps.

mehNWY
04-28-2009, 01:04 PM
car has a white stripe around trunk....its all pink...no other stripes....has the 2 louvers on the hood not sure which hood type that is....im hoping it brings under $15,000 wholesale but probably not

rmfootball69
04-28-2009, 01:14 PM
Well that sounds like what he was just describing, with the rear wrap around stripe, if you pick that thing up it sounds like you could turn it around for quite a profit as one of a handful.

mehNWY
04-29-2009, 02:03 PM
well i didnt get it....it sold for $14,500....i was going to go $15,000.....i had a dumbass attack...i was at the hot dog stand when they sold it....they sold it out of sequence...i got back up there and they had went past it by 2 cars....not sure if i would have got it or not

kylem4711
04-29-2009, 08:58 PM
hopefully it went to someone who is gonna restore it and keep it. not so much a reseller

mehNWY
04-30-2009, 05:43 AM
it sure didnt need very much restoring, this car sold at a dealer only salvage auction...im sure it will be back on the market...for $25,000 plus....i would have sold it for $19,000 if i bought it for $15000

mehNWY
05-05-2009, 06:18 PM
I guess the challenger didnt meet the reserve so they will be reselling it at the end of the month.....sometimes the insurance companies run it twice before they accept a bid...maybe i will end up with it before its over...lol......ill keep everyone posted