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: 1970 Challenger question


BLACKR/T09
09-11-2009, 01:54 PM
Wasn't sure if I should post this here.

Does anyone know what a Yellow 1970 challenger convertible automatic(not a R/T) in mint condition would sell for?

P.S. the ad says that it is an 8 cylinder car, not sure how big. I believe that if it isn't a R/T it would be a 318, chances are i'm wrong.

Thanks.

ZaRussian
09-11-2009, 02:20 PM
Basket case/ in need of total restos are going for 12-20k depending on the amount of work needed. A car like you are describing is more in the 25-high 30's at least. Make it an R/T and we're much higher. Convertible e-bodies,( 70-72 cudas and challengers), are always in demand.

Hal H
09-11-2009, 02:30 PM
Some other factors will affect price.

Non R/T's could get a variety of V8 (318, 383-2bbl, 383-4bbl...you get the idea) engines. The hi-po engines will add value to the price.

Then the options (dual mirrors, A/C, bucket seats vs. bench seat, radio, standard guage cluster vs. Rallye cluster, 'standard' steel wheels vs. optional rallye or magnum wheels, suspension, power brakes, disc brakes, axle ratio and whether it has a power operated top)

3-speed manual tranny was standard, optional were the 4-speed manual and the Torqueflite automatics.

Then whether it has the floor console (required bucket seats). Deduct a bit for column shift automatic. Manual tranny could be had with or without console.

If it has "V8" badges on the fenders - probably a 318 or 383-2bbl engine.

tatim
09-11-2009, 02:39 PM
Out of Old Cars Price Guide

No 1 condition not driven $55,000

No 2 condition $38,500

No 3 condition $24,750

No 4 condition $11,000

No 5 condition $6,600

JS29R0B
09-11-2009, 03:05 PM
Wasn't sure if I should post this here.

Does anyone know what a Yellow 1970 challenger convertible automatic(not a R/T) in mint condition would sell for?

P.S. the ad says that it is an 8 cylinder car, not sure how big. I believe that if it isn't a R/T it would be a 318, chances are i'm wrong.

Thanks.

they were only made 2 years...

...70 Challenger convertibles were available with the RT package, approx 1,000 were made...71 Challenger convertibles were not available as an RT

...earlier price guidelines are pretty close...in todays market you might get a steal

...factors

...condition/rust/rot other damage
...RT or not
...engine size
...original matching number engine
...color and options, high impact colors and lots of options can greatly enhance the value

plumsun3@yahoo.com
09-11-2009, 03:30 PM
Condition, originality, complete parts will change value alot. It takes money to finish these cars even with the large avaliability of aftermarket items. Consider what you may want to modify on car, or keep original. Probably should find decent non R/T convertible for around $25,000, nice trim and mechanically sound.

Goehner (Flat Gonads)
09-11-2009, 03:36 PM
they were only made 2 years...

...70 Challenger convertibles were available with the RT package, approx 1,000 were made...71 Challenger convertibles were not available as an RT

...earlier price guidelines are pretty close...in todays market you might get a steal

...factors

...condition/rust/rot other damage
...RT or not
...engine size
...original matching number engine
...color and options, high impact colors and lots of options can greatly enhance the value

I agree, there are lots of variables. Find out as much as you can, and start your research. I track 70-71 Challenger conv sales on ebay and have about 1 year of history, send me a PM and I can share.

TommyGNR
09-11-2009, 03:53 PM
Recently I have noticed that the selling price of all classic cars(not just Challengers) has dropped significantly. The last two Barret Jackson auctions that I saw were disasters. Its probably the economy. Which means that if you have the cash to buy now is probably a good time. Try making offers below what they want. Also the smallest engine on 1970 RT's from what I recall was the 383. The 340 was put into the TA. Back then the SE model was a luxury package. Also its was possible to get a SE/RT in 1970. The option in 1970 was insane. You could truely build your own car.

bwbike
09-11-2009, 04:03 PM
. . . Also the smallest engine on 1970 RT's from what I recall was the 383. . .

True.

In 1970, the standard V8 Challenger could be ordered with the following: 318 (standard), 340, 383 2bb, 383 4bb.

The R/T could be ordered with: 383 4bb (standard), 440 4bbl, 440 six, 426 Hemi.

BLACKR/T09
09-11-2009, 05:14 PM
Thanks for your help guys, I'm probably going to check the car out soon. I just can't tell enough from small pictures.

djwhog
09-11-2009, 05:39 PM
Well there is a vin tool.exe I have it but can not post it, if needed PM me an email and you can look up the ride per vin.

I swear if it is a driver, get a 318 car, add a 8 2/4 rear, a nice 340 maybe stroke her to 416 and make it nice, no not so nice you are afraid to drive it and have fun...

robo5555
09-11-2009, 05:55 PM
nice car to make a hemi clone with shaker hood!

jmr
09-11-2009, 06:10 PM
It might be a 340 since that was not offered for R/T in 1970. If that is what they are selling you got a great find. My first car that I bought in 1979 was a 1971 340 convertible Challenger for $1,250 with only 60K miles on it.

JS29R0B
09-11-2009, 06:29 PM
vin info...

...JH27 is a Challenger conv

...JS27 is an RT conv.

next ...

...G = 318
...H = 340
...N = 383
...U = 440
...V = SIX PACK
...R = HEMI

next...

0 = 1970

next...

B or E....Hamtramack or Los Angeles assembly plant

next 6 digits are the sequence number of the car

sample...

JS27N0B###### would be a 1970 Challenger RT conv with a 383 built in Hamtramack Mi.

last 6 vin numbers should also be on the cowl in front of the windshield, on the radiator cross support, engine block, trans, drivers door sticker, fender tag and of course the vin tag on the dash...

ColdSRT
09-11-2009, 08:50 PM
How much are they asking?

I paid $5500 for my 70. It is a hardtop 318/auto car in need of a full resto. The body is in damn good shape for the money. The problem is these have jumped in price from a few years ago. 7-8 years ago I could have got a nicer car for less I bet. Oh well. I have what I have and love it. Good luck.

Alpine Zang
09-11-2009, 10:39 PM
R/T had a 383 standard but I think you could option for a 340 like you could in a Road Runner (never really understood that). Also I don't think you HAD TO get an R/T to get a 440, 440+6 or a Hemi. They built cars the way people wanted them back then. You could order just about any combination if you wanted to pay for it. There are a lot of 1 of none out there that came that way. I had a Road Runner with a 383 4spd and trailer tow package (not supposed to be available with that engine trans combo). I've seen LOTS of things that weren't supposed to be available but the codes matched the cars. Best idea is to check out the tags (if there), VIN and make sure the VIN matches the entire car!

Seems like anymore finding a car that all matches is about as much work as finding a car with a big engine...finding both is even more fun...

Hal H
09-11-2009, 11:15 PM
In '70 you could also get the 340 package in the standard Challenger and standard Convertible (A66 code for 340 package) that wasn't available in the SE or R/T versions.

It got you the R/T hood, bumble bee stripe, heavy duty brakes, heavy duty suspension in the 340 package. Optional transmissions were 4-speed manual and Torqueflite automatic.

plumsun3@yahoo.com
09-12-2009, 06:22 AM
A 340 engine was avaliable in R/T convertible, there is a local yellow/ black numbers I've seen at shows. This would be rare, because 340 pkg. in R/T is unusual.

72hemi
09-12-2009, 08:36 AM
Sorry but no 340 R/T cars in1970, period. The smallest R/T engine in 1970 was a383 4 barrel. Any 340 car would have been an A66 (fender tag code for 340 performance package) car.

Rallye72
09-12-2009, 08:54 AM
Thanks for your help guys, I'm probably going to check the car out soon. I just can't tell enough from small pictures.

if you can get it post the fender tag info and the VIN. Lots of us in here can break it down for you from there.

plumsun3@yahoo.com
09-12-2009, 05:57 PM
Vin# started with JS27H which was 340 engine, mines JS27N 383.c.i.d. Older couple owned it, didn't doubt them. Has rallyeye dash and 14" road wheels which were not part of 340 package as well. Could have been changed years ago, don't know. I found original build sheet behind my rear seat, surprised it was a 440 coupe. We used to say in 1970, anything goes.