fcsallan
07-18-2011, 11:17 AM
Just a heads up here. I picked up my Blackberry R/T in April and over the last month have been going back and forth with Dodge trying to get rid of a "failed O2 sensor" CEL.
Two weeks ago it displayed a CEL, when I checked it I found a code of P2245 with a fault in bank one downstream sensor. I figured no big deal, sensors go bad right? Nope. The dealer changed it out and took it for a ride, before the end of his 5 mile jaunt the light came back but this time it was bank 1 upstream so again it was changed. He once again took to the road and wasted another half gallon of fuel on this 7 mile ride. No codes this time. I get the car back 2 hours after they took it back to 12 miles on the odometer and pulled out onto the main drag in front of the dealership and of course, there is the light again.
Well I don't trust anyone to work on my car but me so I took the car home and checked the code and this time it was bank 2 upstream. I figured well, maybe just maybe it was a batch of bad sensors, the car was assembled with all of these sensors at the same time so it could all be one bad batch right? NOPE, I took it to a different dealer and worked with the mechanic who swore that if there were this many occurrences that it would have to be either wiring or controller (computer, ECM whatever you choose to call it). He worked with the guys at Dodge to troubleshoot it and allowed me to hang out in the bay and listen in. One more new O2 sensor resulted in the same light, same code and this time pointing back to one that was replaced by the other dealer already. The guys at DCJ were real cool about it and said they had been chasing some gremlins in some of the 11 R/T's. I asked what had changed since 10 but they evaded the question. Either way, long story to getting to a new ECM. It did take a week to get but it was replaced this am with yet another 4 hour marathon conversation with DCJ. They installed the ECM and now I get a P2115 and P2116 and several other codes. They expected this at DCJ but the mechanic did not. After he took me to lunch, we got back on the horn with the big boys and they fed his starscan with a new ROM for my ECM and after about an hour to program and re-initialize the codes are gone.
I tried to get an issue number or something that we could point to if we find this kind of problem being more than isolated, but I failed miserably.
I hope no one needs this info and mine was an isolated issue, but I fear that will not be the case.
For now at least, my ride is back to normal. Now off to figure out which exhaust to add. :D
Two weeks ago it displayed a CEL, when I checked it I found a code of P2245 with a fault in bank one downstream sensor. I figured no big deal, sensors go bad right? Nope. The dealer changed it out and took it for a ride, before the end of his 5 mile jaunt the light came back but this time it was bank 1 upstream so again it was changed. He once again took to the road and wasted another half gallon of fuel on this 7 mile ride. No codes this time. I get the car back 2 hours after they took it back to 12 miles on the odometer and pulled out onto the main drag in front of the dealership and of course, there is the light again.
Well I don't trust anyone to work on my car but me so I took the car home and checked the code and this time it was bank 2 upstream. I figured well, maybe just maybe it was a batch of bad sensors, the car was assembled with all of these sensors at the same time so it could all be one bad batch right? NOPE, I took it to a different dealer and worked with the mechanic who swore that if there were this many occurrences that it would have to be either wiring or controller (computer, ECM whatever you choose to call it). He worked with the guys at Dodge to troubleshoot it and allowed me to hang out in the bay and listen in. One more new O2 sensor resulted in the same light, same code and this time pointing back to one that was replaced by the other dealer already. The guys at DCJ were real cool about it and said they had been chasing some gremlins in some of the 11 R/T's. I asked what had changed since 10 but they evaded the question. Either way, long story to getting to a new ECM. It did take a week to get but it was replaced this am with yet another 4 hour marathon conversation with DCJ. They installed the ECM and now I get a P2115 and P2116 and several other codes. They expected this at DCJ but the mechanic did not. After he took me to lunch, we got back on the horn with the big boys and they fed his starscan with a new ROM for my ECM and after about an hour to program and re-initialize the codes are gone.
I tried to get an issue number or something that we could point to if we find this kind of problem being more than isolated, but I failed miserably.
I hope no one needs this info and mine was an isolated issue, but I fear that will not be the case.
For now at least, my ride is back to normal. Now off to figure out which exhaust to add. :D