I'm leaning towards an AIRAID on my 2010 R/T.

I'm mostly interested in picking up a few HP, a little more sound (but nothing too obnoxious), and not overly concerned with how it looks. I have a predator, and would also like to take advantage of the CAI tune.

I've read the AIRAID threads and like what I hear, but is there any others out there I should give serious consideration to?

I'm leaning towards an AIRAID on my 2010 R/T.

I'm mostly interested in picking up a few HP, a little more sound (but nothing too obnoxious), and not overly concerned with how it looks. I have a predator, and would also like to take advantage of the CAI tune.

I've read the AIRAID threads and like what I hear, but is there any others out there I should give serious consideration to?

Airaid is fine, they're all about the same, and won't yield that much HP. Go with what your eyes and pocketbook dictate.

If I had to get one, I would get the Legmaker Air Hammer intake.

I wouldn't expect any H P gain out of an intake. Consider getting an 6.1 air box and a drop in filter. I prefer AFE filters over other brands personally. Your stock intake flows more than enough air and is sealed from the hot, under hood air. Many of us have swapped to a 6.1 air box and thrown in a drop in filter and had great results. Your intake noise WILL be throatier, especially once you remove that ridiculous resonator on the stock intake tube. Otherwise, the 5.7 box flows rather well.

If you choose to go the intake route, take a gander at Volant. They make a nice system with an enclosed air box and a scoop. You can also find it for around $250 if you look online for that particular part number.

I initially bought an AFE Stage II a week after I bought my car and I thought the intake noise was obnoxious. I felt like the motor had lost that refined V8 as it should have and was way too loud. Some people like that sucking sound but I wasn't really a fan. I hear the Volant systems are rather tame.

i had a volant system on my chevy pickup and it was LOUD.. VERY LOUD.. completely enclosed. so i don't know if noise is a issue if that is a deal breaker.

I tried a Rc2 and sent it back. did NOTHING.

Personally either get a 6.1 box with a aftermarket filter.. or get one IF POSSIBLE that will draw air from under the car.

just my 2 cents

There are people selling 6.1 boxes here all the time. You can pick one up for $80 bucks or so.

Or just get the actual intake tube and leave the box alone since they're not a whole lot different.

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Interested in doing the 6.1 air box for my 2012 rt . What airbox year do I need to look for ? Will any just fit right in ?

If I had to get one, I would get the Legmaker Air Hammer intake.

For an R/T, ^^^^^^ this


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So....

If everyone is saying the stock airbox with a good filter (like a K&N) is just as good then why do so many people have a CAI?

Also, any before / after videos or sound? I really am looking for a good sound but don't want it to sound crappy or cheap. Just want more of a V8 growl if I can get it.

I went with the 2011 Charger air duct and k&n drop in filter. love the way it looks compared to the resonator(which really cleans up the area under the hood)and it performs better.:redblob:

So....

If everyone is saying the stock airbox with a good filter (like a K&N) is just as good then why do so many people have a CAI?

Also, any before / after videos or sound? I really am looking for a good sound but don't want it to sound crappy or cheap. Just want more of a V8 growl if I can get it.


There are better filters out there than K&N.

There are better filters out there than K&N.

I wonder if S&B would make a stock OEM filter


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They're supposed to. They do make special orders custom fit for any style air box. S&B makes quality stuff and their filters are an 8 ply, not 5 like many other brands. Speedlogix uses an S&B filter for their intakes.

As for Airraid, I think it would be more beneficial for their intake sales if they mentioned the vehicle tested (completely stock or with mods), the Air Temp, inHg and the humidity and the correction factor used when they came up with their 11 hp / 20 tq gain (which looks like a spot gain) and also include the average tq and hp gained. I would also add that the dyno graph and #'s used would be easier to decipher if they used whole number intervals. This is where Legmaker and Speedlogix have an leading sales edge in my opinion.

The problem is not with the companies, it's the claims that these things make HUGE power on whatever vehicle, so, a marketing gimmick realistically. I use AFE filters, not for extra power, but for the hopes that it breathes a bit better than a stock paper filter and the hopes that I might pick up a mpg in the process. An efficient engine is a good runnign engine. But until I can see a 5.7, 6.1 or 6.4 strapped on a dyno with a bunch of different intakes make huge power, then I'll be a believer.

And also, that LX Forum intake face off thread is awesome, but its old now, from 2005 and quite a bit has changed since then. Not sure if you've read it or not.

What are you running on your 392?

The problem is not with the companies, it's the claims that these things make HUGE power on whatever vehicle, so, a marketing gimmick realistically. I use AFE filters, not for extra power, but for the hopes that it breathes a bit better than a stock paper filter and the hopes that I might pick up a mpg in the process. An efficient engine is a good runnign engine. But until I can see a 5.7, 6.1 or 6.4 strapped on a dyno with a bunch of different intakes make huge power, then I'll be a believer.

And also, that LX Forum intake face off thread is awesome, but its old now, from 2005 and quite a bit has changed since then. Not sure if you've read it or not.

What are you running on your 392?

I am still running the stock intake and even with the gains on the Speedlogix and Legmaker, I'm debating if it's something that will make a real difference as a daily driver. LXForums set us up for success on CT because where they left off, MikeyChallenger and me continued on. Taking the dyno sheets and calculating out SAE dyno results for the Speedlogix and Legmaker Frankentake IV show that they are both good for an average gain of 8 rwhp / 8 rwtq and spikes of 15-19 rwhp and rwtq following along the lines of what the Airhammer and Frankentake IV gained on the 6.1.

More to follow though as we dig deeper down the rabbit hole from a cost/hp gain, sound, materials vs heatsoak, fuel efficiency, and 1/4mi time improvement. Learning from my 6.1 modding experience, I'm weary about putting a lot of money into minimal gain parts.

I know most of these threads go down this path...

But can anyone really say, on a 2010 R/T -- is there any advantage of a CAI?

I hear many arguments that say the stock airbox with a K&N is just as good. But, then I got people telling me that I shouldn't run the predator "CAI" tune with a K&N but it would be OK with real CAI.

I'm not looking to race, but I'd love a few extra HP and a nicer sound. I hear some people saying a CAI will sound great and other people saying it will sound crappy. Anyone have any before / after sound clips?

Part of me wants a CAI cause I loved the one on my turbo VW. It sounded awesome. But this is a different beast. I don't want it to sound like crap, and I don't want to waste my money.

I know most of these threads go down this path...

But can anyone really say, on a 2010 R/T -- is there any advantage of a CAI?

I hear many arguments that say the stock airbox with a K&N is just as good. But, then I got people telling me that I shouldn't run the predator "CAI" tune with a K&N but it would be OK with real CAI.

I'm not looking to race, but I'd love a few extra HP and a nicer sound. I hear some people saying a CAI will sound great and other people saying it will sound crappy. Anyone have any before / after sound clips?

Part of me wants a CAI cause I loved the one on my turbo VW. It sounded awesome. But this is a different beast. I don't want it to sound like crap, and I don't want to waste my money.

Airhammer on an R/T sounds awesome


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I ran an AFE Stage II for about 200 miles, ripped it off and ended up with a 6.1 air box. I *personally* thought it sounded obnoxious. I'm all for a throaty motor or a V8 that sounds good. I thought it sounded like it lost it's refined V8 tone and all I could hear was it sucking air, vs the sound of the actual engine. I'm only saying that *I* didn't like it. YOU may like it.

I can tell you though, there is a significant difference in sound from the stock R/T air box vs the 6.1 air box. The 6.1 air box has just enough throatiness to it to keep the engine sounding alive and on fire, reminding me that it's breathing better. I will routinely switch out air boxes to confirm my theory. Punch it once with a stock air box, from 2nd gear, at low speed with a factory air box and then do it again with a 6.1 air box and there's a noticeable difference.

To me, this engine sounds fantastic. I'm new to Chrysler and this is my first experience with a HEMI. It sounds like a truck motor and different from any other V8 I've driven. My company car is a Ford 4.6 V8 and it's inducted well and breathes well and is super throaty, but really doesn't make much power. That 4.6 sounds awesome but it's all bark and no bite and that thing is WAY throatier than my 5.7 is.

This is why I've always been interested in Volant's intakes. I like the idea of using an enclosed air box and not some open filter 3" from the driver's manifold. Why these companies still make those things and call them "CAI"s is beyond me. You simply can't tell me that an open filter is breathing in colder air than the stock air box that's enclosed and more or less sealed from the engine bay. I think Volant got it right and has a great design. I'm just curious to know how it sounds.