Long story short...I was driving to work on a long straight two lane road when a Camaro ss pulled behind me. It was an obnoxious looking thing with this huge spoiler/wing on the rear. I've seen this guy before on this same road, and think he's in a 2010 or 2011 model year Camaro.

The question is, how fast are the SSs? I've seen on threads that a lot of people in the R/Ts can at least keep pace, but this car was fast.

I'm in a 2012 RT auto. I used auto stick to drop down into 3rd to pass a car, and the guy in the Camaro did the same. I pulled back into the left lane and he stayed in the right. I didn't really gun it until we were almost even. Not that I was trying to race, just wanted to let him know I was there. We hung neck and neck for half a second then he was gone. Maybe he had some mods on it? Not sure...but it has bugged me a little today. :mad:

the SS comes in two flavors. If he was a M6 it was the LS3, if it was an Auto he had the L99. the M6 should have no issues passing an R/T.

My brother is this >||< close to buying a new Camaro SS 6-spd. He likes my R/T a lot but if he gets an SS I'm sure he will give me a ration of crap about it having more power, etc. I don't really care, I knew the R/T wasn't the fastest when I bought it. It has enough power for me but the kicker was the fact that it by far is the best looking car versus the Camaro and Mustang.

There will always be faster cars so don't let it bother you. The Challenger is the best looking V8 car in a long while.

My brother is this >||< close to buying a new Camaro SS 6-spd. He likes my R/T a lot but if he gets an SS I'm sure he will give me a ration of crap about it having more power, etc. I don't really care, I knew the R/T wasn't the fastest when I bought it. It has enough power for me but the kicker was the fact that it by far is the best looking car versus the Camaro and Mustang.

There will always be faster cars so don't let it bother you. The Challenger is the best looking V8 car in a long while.

Good point. I knew the RT wasn't the fastest out there, I was just a little shocked with how quick that car took off. Had to be the huge spoiler...probably added 100+ hp.

Long story short...I was driving to work on a long straight two lane road when a Camaro ss pulled behind me. It was an obnoxious looking thing with this huge spoiler/wing on the rear. I've seen this guy before on this same road, and think he's in a 2010 or 2011 model year Camaro.

The question is, how fast are the SSs? I've seen on threads that a lot of people in the R/Ts can at least keep pace, but this car was fast.

I'm in a 2012 RT auto. I used auto stick to drop down into 3rd to pass a car, and the guy in the Camaro did the same. I pulled back into the left lane and he stayed in the right. I didn't really gun it until we were almost even. Not that I was trying to race, just wanted to let him know I was there. We hung neck and neck for half a second then he was gone. Maybe he had some mods on it? Not sure...but it has bugged me a little today. :mad:

We have the slowest of the 3. Got more weight and less power. The camaro is slightly faster.... Lost my train of thought. But the ss is faster

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iv raced a few ss's and beat them all .. but im not stock and they were .. if they did the same stuff i did ... i think they would have smoked me .... cause i didnt win by alot

Stock SS would run low 13s/high 12s with a decent enough driver.

The car is quick and can be made fairly quick with a SC.

I always said I'd never concern myself with "who was faster" because in the end, there will always be something faster.

Also remember the 10s have been out a while and there are plenty of them with performance modifications. Realitively cheap to mod too...tune, full exhaust and cam could be a low 12 second car...seen them, raced them, rode in them everyday!

10X the Camaros sold over the Challengers too so seeing a modded Camaro is pretty good (at least around where I'm from).

SSABAD is 100% correctomundo .....

X2. I used to only car about being fast. I changed as I got older. I do wish I could mod my 2012 more but oh well. damn. I keep losing my train of thought. Umm...

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Like many I feel that having the fastest car on the road is a pointless pursuit. Unless you race or have unlimited funds, a ride that makes you happy both when behind the wheel and looking at it proudly in your driveway is the ticket. Challengers are fast and can be made to go even faster, and that's enough for me.
It's actually a good thing that Camaros and Mustangs are so fast because their owners probably don't want you to look at them for too long. I'm glad they're out there, but you gotta know yourself and what's right for you, and not worry about the other guy. Someone at work bought a black SS convertible and I got a good look the other day. Cheap looking paint job full of orange peel, vulgar interior and general banality of the thing... he can have it. The Challenger is the most grown up of the three muscle/pony cars (and who wants to ride a pony anyway?).

All good advice (and true). I bought the RT for several good reasons and don't regret it for a minute...but for a split second there when that SS went by I admit I thought to myself "scr3w that guy and his goofy spoiler, I'm getting a supercharger."

Drove a 2013 5.0L GT today with 3.73s and a 2012 R/T back to back today.

Mustang looks clean on the outside, but a bit of a familiar look, even with the GT500-esque front end treatment. New tail lights looks slick.

Challenger still looks the best. It has aged the best and will never look old or dated. If it hasn't since 1970, it sure isn't going to now.

Driving both though...the Mustang just plain hauls the mail and pulls forever. Was duly impressed. I don't care about it's options, but motor-wise it's right on the money and then some. Challenger is pretty quick, but feels it's weight and she struggles with it. Doesn't feel slow or anything -- just has a quarter ton more to lug around and 30hp less to do it with.

Mine is a first level R/T. It speaks a high degree of class, road presence and a "don't f**k with me" appearance. Besides, Baby's primary operator is an iron pumping and tattooed blonde, former Miss New Mexico. Recently had one of these "scary" Camaros appearing to hang back as though he was afraid to advance on us. He knew his place.

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It actually sounds like that camaro might of been a ZL1. I had one pull me like the OP described. And yes, it did have a huge abnoxious spoiler.

ive test driven a SS stick shift....i felt it was every bit as fast as my 392

i would think it would easily walk a RT and give a 392 a run for its money....

the one i drove had the Hurst package and was very difficult to shift well....very hard to launch....while the Challenger stick shift i found very easy to use....from a stand still you'd have a better chance if he was stick shift

I've only raced one at the track,I was hot lapping, his car had cooled for three hours. Had sit there long enough to draw my attention, wondering if he was going to run the thing or not.I ran my normal 8.5@83+.He beat me by one carlength in the 1/8 mile.I'm sure it would have been a little closer on a second pass but he left after that single pass.The new Camaro's are ugly, not retro or supercar styled.The mustangs are retro, but incredibly cramped for someone my size, 6'2" ,200 lbs.I prefer the SN95 styling, had a 97 Cobra, but 305hp limited it to 14.0s@100mph.

So my brother ended up buying the '12 Camaro SS 6-spd that I mentioned earlier in the thread. It's not bad. Some things I like about it better than my R/T but there's more things I like better about my R/T. It's definitely cramped quarters inside, not sure he will be able to get an adult in the backseat like you can with a Challenger. I'm 6'2" tall and even with the seat all the way back I was still a little cramped. I have to move the seat forward in my R/T to be comfortable. Still, it's a neat car, just not as good looking as the Challenger. :icon_cool:

Dynamo, now it's time to get a nitrous kit. You can easily do a 100 shot. Then you have no more problems. Takes 4 hours to install. I wish I had a chance at that Camaro. Does it have more than 375 RWHP?

Nitrous im told 75 shot for brewers challengers. 2010 camaro ss had 374 rwhp stock from what I have seen.

They are faster but meh

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I have a mildly modded R/T and have raced three Camaro's at the drag strip (although one was a V6 car) I won all three races. As to whether they were auto cars or manuals I couldn't tell you.

I got to drive my brother's SS today. I liked the HUD but footroom around the dead pedal was very tight. As in I couldn't put my foot on the dead pedal without rubbing against the clutch pedal.

One thing I loved was how the 6-spd shifted. It was silky smooth and it easily went into each gear effortlessly. I didn't think my R/T shifted bad but it feels primitive in comparison. If I'm not mistaken, both cars have the TR-6060 right? I don't know what Chevy did to make it shift so nice but they sure did get that part right.

was deadset on buying a 2011 mustang when the 5.0 came back out (have owned several over the years) but my wife hates them. she wanted a camaro (which i dislike intensely) so we test drove one of each and both hated the interior and ride on the camaro. i loved the mustang albeit a little choppy on the ride but she wouldnt give it the time of day. so then we test drove the challenger srt then the r/t i eventually got. the challenger is hands down the best ride and is a bit better looking than the mustang and way better than the camaro. so i/we settled. that being said the mustang is a beast and dollar for dollar on mods will eat the challengers lunch...assuming it will the camaro also. :burnout:

I didn't buy my Challenger to race, I bought it to drive.
I do plan on taking it to a track someday to see what I can do though but
I know I will lose to Camaro SS's and 5.0's but I don't care.
The challenger looks the best, drives the best and is most practical.

A friend of mine owns a 2010 Camaro M6. I drove it a bunch of times and I cannot
stand the cramped interior, high dash and window sills, rear visibility is a joke, and
after 15min of driving it in traffic for purpose and not playing around I was sick of it.

5.0's are awesome cars for speed and I like the interior but everyone has one...

ive test driven a SS stick shift....i felt it was every bit as fast as my 392

i would think it would easily walk a RT and give a 392 a run for its money....

I don't know where the 2 cars truly match-up, either, but the power output between the Hemi 5.7 and the LS3 are remarkably similar up to about 4500 rpm, and the SS is geared pretty darn tall, to boot. GM kind of bucks the trend with a manual that is geared to cross the qtr mi in 3rd (instead of a more typical 4th for manuals), while their automatic is geared to cross it in 4th (instead of a more typical 3rd for automatics). It can make for an interesting race, imo, given those factors in play (not that I have personally observed instances of that scenario to have any basis).

M6 to m6;Camaro ss wins hands down, but auto to auto you guys will be surprised.I guarantee it. 2009 rt auto and Im fender to fender with the l99 10/10 times. Randycat
5.7 are beasts also betw:headbang2:een 2700 and 4300RPMs.

I have never been beat at the track or the street, by maros, stangs vetts. None.
Ya ya you heard it ,,,,,street. I like the hussle. And the big huge drum number guys is pure satifaction kill. Even fat steam roller tire cars have to hook on the street.
Is my day coming....sure it is. Then ill build a motor.
Till then,,,,give me your money suckers.
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I don't know where the 2 cars truly match-up, either, but the power output between the Hemi 5.7 and the LS3 are remarkably similar up to about 4500 rpm, and the SS is geared pretty darn tall, to boot. GM kind of bucks the trend with a manual that is geared to cross the qtr mi in 3rd (instead of a more typical 4th for manuals), while their automatic is geared to cross it in 4th (instead of a more typical 3rd for automatics). It can mIake for an interesting race, imo, given those factors in play (not that I have personally observed instances of that scenario to have any basis).

Very true. The one time I faced off against a stock m6 camaro when I was stock I got him off the line good but after I shifted from 2nd to 5th :) he got me in the end. Now granted, the dude probably wasn't the best driver (and neither am I with shifting like that!) but it goes to show that there is more to it than just peak numbers. Im pretty confident if i didnt miss the shift i would have got him. There is that whole rest of the power curve that's overlooked and gearing too.

My R/T 6spd is pretty much stock and I have played with all kinds of Camaros. (Got a lot of Camaro friends since I used to own one) The L99 auto is a good race. If I don't screw up shifting I can nose them out most of the time. If they have mods it's another story. I can hang with the stock LS3 manuals, but have yet to beat one with a half way capable driver. Even got my ass handed to me by a V6 that with full bolt-ons spraying n2o :icon_lol:

Most head-to-heads put the Camaro as the clear winner in accleration and most other performance categories. Among the Stang, Camaro, and Chally, the Dodge usually ranks last in most everything that makes it race-worthy.

But a lot has to do with the driver in the real world.

Personally, I'd say that you should drive it, have fun, and don't stress about whether or not he will smoke you.

The Challenger has the sort of street-cred that other cars only dream about.

Have fun!

Last year I bought a 10 camaro rs ss m6. I thought it felt really lazy below 4500 rpm. I put full length headers,cai,suspension,shifter and the car still felt sub par.Above 4500 it felt like an animal.The interior sucked,the view over the dash sucked,it was uncomfortable,It looked tacky,i hated it.I returned it to stock and traded it in on my R/T m6 chally. My chally feels quicker around town,I can see out the windows,looks amazing,drives nice and fits the kids.I feel like I am driving the general lee where ever I go. Does it make more power-no.
Does it handle like a sports car-no.
Is it better than the camaro-Way better.
This is coming from a true 100% LSx guy.
The camaro was a disappointment that cost me a fortune and I regretted it immensely.G.M let me down.

I was always a chevy guy myself ..... but i loooooove this car ... and will never get rid of it.

Drove all three, Challenger is hands down the better "real world" machine. Especially for a taller guy like me..6-4.

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was deadset on buying a 2011 mustang when the 5.0 came back out (have owned several over the years) but my wife hates them. she wanted a camaro (which i dislike intensely) so we test drove one of each and both hated the interior and ride on the camaro. i loved the mustang albeit a little choppy on the ride but she wouldnt give it the time of day. so then we test drove the challenger srt then the r/t i eventually got. the challenger is hands down the best ride and is a bit better looking than the mustang and way better than the camaro. so i/we settled. that being said the mustang is a beast and dollar for dollar on mods will eat the challengers lunch...assuming it will the camaro also. :burnout:

Same here. Always loved the Mustangs and have had owned 3 including a '65 coupe. Was dead set on buying one but had to drive all three (Stang, Camaro, Challenger). Looked at the GM first...hated it. Nice looking retro but too cramped for me.

Drove a 2012 GT Premium...loved it and was dead set on pressing with the purchase. But I wanted to drive the RT first...had a '73 Duster/340 in high school so I wanted to see what the current Mopar's were like to drive.

Needless to say I left the Dodge dealer in an RT after driving it...best looking car around.

Same here. Always loved the Mustangs and have had owned 3 including a '65 coupe. Was dead set on buying one but had to drive all three (Stang, Camaro, Challenger). Looked at the GM first...hated it. Nice looking retro but too cramped for me.

Drove a 2012 GT Premium...loved it and was dead set on pressing with the purchase. But I wanted to drive the RT first...had a '73 Duster/340 in high school so I wanted to see what the current Mopar's were like to drive.

Needless to say I left the Dodge dealer in an RT after driving it...best looking car around.
Oh man. Sounds like we all had the same life altering experience.

I really didn't care about the new Camero or Mustang. I knew the second this car was revealed, that I was going to own one. I choose the R/T instead of the SRT because of the cost difference AND the Classis package reminded me of the '70's Mopar muscle look.

I had a 1968 Dodge Charger w/ a stock 383 727 auto and I will say my R/T would of killed it in a race. No doubt. And yes, for long trips this car is fantastic.

I really didn't care about the new Camero or Mustang. I knew the second this car was revealed, that I was going to own one. I choose the R/T instead of the SRT because of the cost difference AND the Classis package reminded me of the '70's Mopar muscle look.

I had a 1968 Dodge Charger w/ a stock 383 727 auto and I will say my R/T would of killed it in a race. No doubt. And yes, for long trips this car is fantastic.
Same here. It would be nice to have the 392 but I much prefer how the Classic package R/T looks.

I also bought an '11 2 SS RS M6 Camaro new. I owned the car for exactly 65 days and traded it. It was an impulse purchase. While the engine did emit some fantastic sounds, the car just wasn't for me. It was fast, loved the HUD and the sound system but the road noise was terrible and I never really realized it until I test drove an R/T.

I went simply looking at the Challengers because I loved the way they looked. I had no intentions at buying one. I mean, hell, I had a brand new Camaro with 2000 miles on it. Needless to say, I ended up leaving my car there and walked away with a 2010 left over, loaded, for $31k out the door.

A year later, I couldn't be happier. While I would loved to have a 392, $50k is an absurd price and out of my budget.

I didn't buy my Challenger to race, I bought it to drive.
I do plan on taking it to a track someday to see what I can do though but
I know I will lose to Camaro SS's and 5.0's but I don't care.
The challenger looks the best, drives the best and is most practical.

A friend of mine owns a 2010 Camaro M6. I drove it a bunch of times and I cannot
stand the cramped interior, high dash and window sills, rear visibility is a joke, and
after 15min of driving it in traffic for purpose and not playing around I was sick of it.

5.0's are awesome cars for speed and I like the interior but everyone has one...
Couldnt agree with you more,the cramped Camaro interior killed it for me and that B pillar BRUTAL! The Challenger Rt/ is what I would call a classy touring car with performace,a nice road trip car..the Camaro or Stang is not a road trip car..good luck on getting 2 golf bags into a mustang or camaro!

And if I may add to my last post I forgot to mention that we shouldn't be suprised that Mopars are heavier right??? I mean looking back to the last muscle car era, Chrysler had the biggest size cars vs the Vette, Mustang, Camero.

I choose the R/T instead of the SRT because of the cost difference AND the Classis package reminded me of the '70's Mopar muscle look.

I had a 1968 Dodge Charger w/ a stock 383 727 auto and I will say my R/T would of killed it in a race. No doubt. And yes, for long trips this car is fantastic.


Love the classic package look, but I jumped all over the Redline Pearl with RT stripes, the test drive had me sold...and totally agree with the SRT price comment.

Sad thing is while I was haggling the price for my RT, there was an SRT Redline Pearl with white stripes sitting across from me in the showroom and I know I spent too much time staring at that once the salesman was trying to push his "extra items" list one me....tint (which I got done elsewhere), ect....total was blowing him off at that point...lol

That SRT was sick looking, but the sticker at $51K was out of my league.

...and that SRT is still sitting there...

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I think for most of us, the R/T was the "logical" (a.k.a. affordable) way to get into a performance Challenger without the $45-$50K price tag. For others, there may have been trim options or cosmetics that made the R/T the more attractive car, as well. But there is certainly NO SHAME in plopping your butt into one of these R/T's, so I never feel that I need to justify why I bought it versus the SRT (which I couldn't afford anyway). Truth is, they have as much engine performance as you can really use on most streets (and then some), they have real nice features, and they look and sound very, very cool. If you don't feel like you're rollin' in a vehicle with a cool factor of 11 on a 1 to 10 scale, you're missing something in your personality... :)

I love my R/T. No regrets. Looks killer, runs killer, gets a ton of stares, and a lot of "Nice Car!" compliments.

My R/T always makes me think of a Cadillac commercial where the woman is driving around and asks, "When you turn your car on, does it do the same for you?"

Yes. Yes it does.

I think for most of us, the R/T was the "logical" (a.k.a. affordable) way to get into a performance Challenger without the $45-$50K price tag. For others, there may have been trim options or cosmetics that made the R/T the more attractive car, as well. But there is certainly NO SHAME in plopping your butt into one of these R/T's, so I never feel that I need to justify why I bought it versus the SRT (which I couldn't afford anyway). Truth is, they have as much engine performance as you can really use on most streets (and then some), they have real nice features, and they look and sound very, very cool. If you don't feel like you're rollin' in a vehicle with a cool factor of 11 on a 1 to 10 scale, you're missing something in your personality... :)

I love my R/T. No regrets. Looks killer, runs killer, gets a ton of stares, and a lot of "Nice Car!" compliments.

My R/T always makes me think of a Cadillac commercial where the woman is driving around and asks, "When you turn your car on, does it do the same for you?"

Yes. Yes it does.

well said man! :banger:

I think for most of us, the R/T was the "logical" (a.k.a. affordable) way to get into a performance Challenger without the $45-$50K price tag. For others, there may have been trim options or cosmetics that made the R/T the more attractive car, as well. But there is certainly NO SHAME in plopping your butt into one of these R/T's, so I never feel that I need to justify why I bought it versus the SRT (which I couldn't afford anyway). Truth is, they have as much engine performance as you can really use on most streets (and then some), they have real nice features, and they look and sound very, very cool. If you don't feel like you're rollin' in a vehicle with a cool factor of 11 on a 1 to 10 scale, you're missing something in your personality... :)

I love my R/T. No regrets. Looks killer, runs killer, gets a ton of stares, and a lot of "Nice Car!" compliments.

My R/T always makes me think of a Cadillac commercial where the woman is driving around and asks, "When you turn your car on, does it do the same for you?"

Yes. Yes it does.

Nicely stated...bottom line is if I did not like my RT, I wouldnt have purchased it. I threw out my Mustang enthusiasm for this car!

Long story short...I was driving to work on a long straight two lane road when a Camaro ss pulled behind me. It was an obnoxious looking thing with this huge spoiler/wing on the rear. I've seen this guy before on this same road, and think he's in a 2010 or 2011 model year Camaro.

The question is, how fast are the SSs? I've seen on threads that a lot of people in the R/Ts can at least keep pace, but this car was fast.

I'm in a 2012 RT auto. I used auto stick to drop down into 3rd to pass a car, and the guy in the Camaro did the same. I pulled back into the left lane and he stayed in the right. I didn't really gun it until we were almost even. Not that I was trying to race, just wanted to let him know I was there. We hung neck and neck for half a second then he was gone. Maybe he had some mods on it? Not sure...but it has bugged me a little today. :mad:
Don't be angry, you have the most beautiful muscle car, at the end you know that it is not the fastest, but the most beautiful and eye catcher (from Mustang and Camaro).

Good point. I knew the RT wasn't the fastest out there, I was just a little shocked with how quick that car took off. Had to be the huge spoiler...probably added 100+ hp.

Was it black on black wheels with SSlo on the plates? BTW this HOUSTON and take it from me, with shops like LMR, Auto Adrenaline, Serious HP, and many others, it's not hard to bump into a modded Camaro that's going to hurt some feelings. I live in Houston too. If you ever want to go to a meet or something, I know of plenty. PM me.

I owned several Mopars (Road Runners, 340 Demons and throw in a Smokie & Bandit T/A) I would put my '10 Classic R/T up against 'em anyday. Since adding a SC to the package I feel I have the best of both worlds (R/T vs SRT) the Classic I think has the edge on looks and with the mods I've done I am now running with the "Big Dogs" on power. All these Challengers no matter the color or set up look hot, the R/T Classic just takes it all and says "hey look at me"!

Was it black on black wheels with SSlo on the plates? BTW this HOUSTON and take it from me, with shops like LMR, Auto Adrenaline, Serious HP, and many others, it's not hard to bump into a modded Camaro that's going to hurt some feelings. I live in Houston too. If you ever want to go to a meet or something, I know of plenty. PM me.

Thanks, this one was a yellow with black striped. I'll have to watch out for a black on black. What part of Houston are you in?

I was driving down the 75 towards Mckinney. Not driving fast because the police are ever where on this stretch of the fwy and my car is sick. Any way came across two different Camaro SS cars and they both move out of the way. I thought the last one was gonna go because the road opened up and there was a nice long stretch to get on it. However, he just look and let me go.

Thank God, my poor Challenger R/T is hurting and needs help. It's making a terrible ticking sound from the engine. I was told it was the lifters by two different mechanics and the dealer told me it's the headers. Having lock bolts installed on the headers and will see if it's them or not.

I guess if I saw my car I would get out of the way too.

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I was driving down the 75 towards Mckinney. Not driving fast because the police are ever where on this stretch of the fwy and my car is sick. Any way came across two different Camaro SS cars and they both move out of the way. I thought the last one was gonna go because the road opened up and there was a nice long stretch to get on it. However, he just look and let me go.

Thank God, my poor Challenger R/T is hurting and needs help. It's making a terrible ticking sound from the engine. I was told it was the lifters by two different mechanics and the dealer told me it's the headers. Having lock bolts installed on the headers and will see if it's them or not.

I guess if I saw my car I would get out of the way too.

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Your car looks pretty bad azz.

That's a sweet looking ride for sure.

I was driving down the 75 towards Mckinney. Not driving fast because the police are ever where on this stretch of the fwy and my car is sick. Any way came across two different Camaro SS cars and they both move out of the way. I thought the last one was gonna go because the road opened up and there was a nice long stretch to get on it. However, he just look and let me go.

Thank God, my poor Challenger R/T is hurting and needs help. It's making a terrible ticking sound from the engine. I was told it was the lifters by two different mechanics and the dealer told me it's the headers. Having lock bolts installed on the headers and will see if it's them or not.

I guess if I saw my car I would get out of the way too.

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That is one sweet lookin' Challenger! Please drop me a PM, if you want to meet one day. If you pass through the McKinney and I-75 area on occasion, then we frequent the same area. ;) I'd be curious to hear your engine ticking, and you can hear mine, if you are curious about any sound similarities/differences. I got a different noise I've always been curious about, and maybe you can tell me what you think. :)

(I certainly couldn't tell you anything useful about your ticking, mind you. I only mentioned it out of personal curiosity. I do hope you get your car feeling better soon.)

Off topic but coloring the grill surround, was it much trouble?

I do like how that turned out, too!

Shouldnt have noticed a huge gain in speed if it was an SS. With the spoiler and chin you are speaking of...maybe it was the new ZL1? That would have no problem raping you...

Both the zl1 and Shelby Gt500 are supercharged, tack a SC on a 392 and I think it's definitely in the ballgame, provided it's not a six speed saddled with torque management.

I have raced at least 3 or 4 camaros all SSs and have never lost to 1 at the track?My car is mostly stock with the 93 tune.I have to say they were all pissed??LOL

Both the zl1 and Shelby Gt500 are supercharged, tack a SC on a 392 and I think it's definitely in the ballgame, provided it's not a six speed saddled with torque management.

How about even with torque management? Don't both of those cars have torque management up the yin-yang (for better or worse)? In the ZL-1, a well-known part to its torque management is none other than the "No-Lift-Shift", right? Similarly, the GT500 is noted for trimming back available output in lower gears, despite your "commanding" WOT from inside the car. Torque management isn't even something that Chrysler alone does. ;)

That is one sweet lookin' Challenger! Please drop me a PM, if you want to meet one day. If you pass through the McKinney and I-75 area on occasion, then we frequent the same area. ;) I'd be curious to hear your engine ticking, and you can hear mine, if you are curious about any sound similarities/differences. I got a different noise I've always been curious about, and maybe you can tell me what you think. :)

(I certainly couldn't tell you anything useful about your ticking, mind you. I only mentioned it out of personal curiosity. I do hope you get your car feeling better soon.)

I will be at the Dodge dealer tomorrow and then on Tuesday dropping the car off at Whiteside Customs. I had, I stress "had" because there gone, goats that climbed on the car and scratched the black paint, so I am having it redone. Also, they are going to install my kooks headers and high flow cats again. Needless to say it be a while before I get the car back. When I do I'll hit you up.

Off topic but coloring the grill surround, was it much trouble?


Pain in the ass. It was removed and painted then installed. However, it keeps coming loose. So I have to purchase another one and repaint it and install that one. The tabs on the back won't hold it anymore.

I will be at the Dodge dealer tomorrow and then on Tuesday dropping the car off at Whiteside Customs. I had, I stress "had" because there gone, goats that climbed on the car and scratched the black paint, so I am having it redone. Also, they are going to install my kooks headers and high flow cats again. Needless to say it be a while before I get the car back. When I do I'll hit you up.

Ok, sounds good! Sounds like your car is getting dressed to the 9's!