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: Dynosteve does it again. Supercharged 2011 392


Tuck10
06-07-2012, 12:37 PM
2011 392 Supercharged SRT8 Challenger by RDP Motorsport - YouTube

For the horsepower junkies this will put you/us right up front on par with the competition because as of right now will are trailing badly. That sad part is there is no straight logical explanation as to why we don't have tuning available for our 2011 392's. I have my assumptions but I rather not say due to the unfairness and out right monopolistic greed of the automotive industry. However, my assumption can be wrong but only time will tell.

Note: If you don't care about adding HP or just the horsepower war in general, then disregard this thread this message does not apply to you.

70340SIXPACK
06-07-2012, 12:48 PM
Suweeeet !!!!!! Thats friggin awesome !!!! :cheers: Nice job !!!

gr8srt8
06-07-2012, 01:29 PM
Awesome! I can't wait to see the footage from the track...

USMCAv8R
06-07-2012, 01:46 PM
So much power it is crazy. I wonder why most people don't get a centrifugal supercharger to keep the active intake? Then again I guess it may not make a difference when you get boost since the torque comes on so low

Unit453
06-07-2012, 01:51 PM
I like the stock looking air box. Is the box stock or something that was better designed for the blower? I assume it's a flat panel filter?

Curious why some type of aftermarket intake wasn't used with this application. I would assume because the stock box is flowing enough?

USMCAv8R
06-07-2012, 01:57 PM
I like the stock looking air box. Is the box stock or something that was better designed for the blower? I assume it's a flat panel filter?

Curious why some type of aftermarket intake wasn't used with this application. I would assume because the stock box is flowing enough?

That's an edelbrock e force supercharger I believe. That is the intake that it comes with, it is just a cover over the filter. Underneath they look just like a cold air intake.

Litos
06-07-2012, 02:03 PM
spun all the way through second gear !!!!

very nice

so what did they use to tune with !?!?

smitman
06-07-2012, 02:14 PM
spun all the way through second gear !!!!

very nice

so what did they use to tune with !?!?
How does this compare in cost to Arrington?

Flat Top
06-07-2012, 02:18 PM
Dyno does a great job. He gave me on he!! of a tune up in texas. I went there with no tune on a trailor. Next night 12:20s on nitto street tires.
FlatTop

Tuck10
06-07-2012, 03:32 PM
I know they did a computer swap. They put in a tunable 2010 computer. As far as what they used? Good question.

Tuck10
06-07-2012, 03:35 PM
No kidding, whoever decides to go the force induction route and is plan on dragging better gets some drag radials otherwise if stock you would just spin the tires.

Tuck10
06-07-2012, 03:37 PM
sou Should be able to run a 12.20 stock. Needless to say 12.20 is a great time. I ran a 12.53 stock.

randycat99
06-07-2012, 08:36 PM
Looks like it is time to explore taller axle ratios on that one! ;)

70TA-09RT
06-07-2012, 08:52 PM
yep saw this car in person and she sounds and runs great I hear he is doing a automatic and it was in the 550 range :cheers: I believe it's a Blue IE392 :naughty: This car has a lot of upgrades on it BTW

Litos
06-07-2012, 09:30 PM
very nice - looks like the cost of the "swapped 2010 ECU" will start coming down since everyone else is jumping on the bandwagon....

rander
06-08-2012, 04:45 AM
Someone should just make it a kit to sell. Then the price really drops.

very nice - looks like the cost of the "swapped 2010 ECU" will start coming down since everyone else is jumping on the bandwagon....

Litos
06-08-2012, 06:34 AM
Someone should just make it a kit to sell. Then the price really drops.
Diablosport should include this kit along with the unit so that they can sell it in a package deal HAHA !!!!

Toxic11
06-08-2012, 06:47 AM
E-Force + 2010 PCM + Intune... Awww yeah :)

Litos
06-08-2012, 06:55 AM
E-Force + 2010 PCM + Intune... Awww yeah :)
http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp105/markymark689/Random/1181699580949.gif

USMCAv8R
06-08-2012, 08:40 AM
Some reason I'm not too much of a fan of the Eforce, I like the look of the magnuson or procharger better.

Tuck10
06-08-2012, 02:50 PM
Just a FYI to everyone they are selling the conversion kit for 5 grand that includes all new wiring harnesses, PCM computer, moulds, and install. So you are looking at ruffly another 5 or 6 Grand for the supercharger which brings your grand total to about 10 or 11 grand not including tax. There may be other added cost such as new rubber because a supercharged 392 will burn off the tires in a heartbeat. No need to beef up the frame because the car can handle 1000 HP as is.

KS-SRT6spd
06-08-2012, 05:43 PM
It's cool to see the 392 guys finially getting to do S/C on their motors. Sucks it takes a 2010 PCM swap (screw you Chrysler, :cursin::cursin:) but if there is a will there is a way. Nice job RDP!!! Also cool to see the E force being used. I would like to see someone do a KB on a 392.

GoFastChallenger
06-08-2012, 07:01 PM
^^^ X 2!!!

GoFastChallenger
06-08-2012, 07:03 PM
also would like to see one... on my car :elephant:

SRT8BC
06-08-2012, 07:33 PM
Wicked!!!!

Litos
06-08-2012, 08:31 PM
I would like to see someone do a KB on a 392.
been done - in Houston.

i'm working with the shop to get more details.....


http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/7107/dsc5238.jpg

BlackRT2011
06-08-2012, 08:55 PM
been done - in Houston.

i'm working with the shop to get more details.....


http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/7107/dsc5238.jpg

My attention. You have it.

Red Barron
06-08-2012, 09:30 PM
2011 392 Supercharged SRT8 Challenger by RDP Motorsport - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs9kphcugsI&list=UUAjSlKyZbS_V23UAJl4YOhQ&index=2&feature=plcp)

For the horsepower junkies this will put you/us right up front on par with the competition because as of right now will are trailing badly. That sad part is there is no straight logical explanation as to why we don't have tuning available for our 2011 392's. I have my assumptions but I rather not say due to the unfairness and out right monopolistic greed of the automotive industry. However, my assumption can be wrong but only time will tell.

Note: If you don't care about adding HP or just the horsepower war in general, then disregard this thread this message does not apply to you.

Plenty of tuning available, not just by the end user. What would you like?


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Red Barron
06-08-2012, 09:34 PM
My attention. You have it.

We are working the 392 tuning on a stock ECU for this. Based on the 2.8 KB with the Ice Maker (LC).


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jsd512
06-08-2012, 10:17 PM
Saw that a couple of days ago, badass stuff. :armed:

Tuck10
06-09-2012, 12:21 AM
I would like everything the competitions has and then some.....boy do I have an appetite.

BlackRT2011
06-09-2012, 01:31 AM
We are working the 392 tuning on a stock ECU for this. Based on the 2.8 KB with the Ice Maker (LC).


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Lots of focus on the 392 with the B&G, I'm a 2011 R/T.

Tuck10
06-09-2012, 01:36 AM
Keep me posted, I will surely be your first customer once available hopefully. I would rather have a tune and supercharger using the 2011 computer I mean who wouldn't. I believe doing it the right way is actually cheaper. Computer swapping plus other necessary accessories will run you 5 grand from the RDP guys. In a perfect world I would be flooring the pedal all while monitoring and admiring the numbers on my Trinity or lastest tuner as the Supercharger whine the sweet tunes.

Tuck10
06-09-2012, 01:39 AM
We are working the 392 tuning on a stock ECU for this. Based on the 2.8 KB with the Ice Maker (LC).


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Keep me posted, I will surely be your first customer once available hopefully. I would rather have a tune and supercharger using the 2011 computer I mean who wouldn't. I believe doing it the right way is actually cheaper. Computer swapping plus other necessary accessories will run you 5 grand from the RDP guys. In a perfect world I would be flooring the pedal all while monitoring and admiring the numbers on my Trinity or lastest tuner as the Supercharger whine the sweet tunes.

smitman
06-09-2012, 06:08 PM
Keep me posted, I will surely be your first customer once available hopefully. I would rather have a tune and supercharger using the 2011 computer I mean who wouldn't. I believe doing it the right way is actually cheaper. Computer swapping plus other necessary accessories will run you 5 grand from the RDP guys. In a perfect world I would be flooring the pedal all while monitoring and admiring the numbers on my Trinity or lastest tuner as the Supercharger whine the sweet tunes.

RDP quoted me 18K for a Tune plus SuperCharger...gonna be real easy to pass on this one.

buckwheat
06-09-2012, 06:22 PM
RDP quoted me 18K for a Tune plus SuperCharger...gonna be real easy to pass on this one.


Wtf 18k that has to be a mistake

Litos
06-09-2012, 07:54 PM
rdp quoted me 18k for a tune plus supercharger...gonna be real easy to pass on this one.
aaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaa !!!!!!!!

GoFastChallenger
06-10-2012, 07:23 AM
i dont know if this is a stupid question or not but how come they cant tune the 2010 ecu to have the active intake capability? is it impossible?

Tuck10
06-10-2012, 08:03 AM
RDP quoted me 18K for a Tune plus SuperCharger...gonna be real easy to pass on this one.

Damn that's ridiculous. That's ruffly the price of a base model Challenger Lol. 18 grand is just outrageous.

Toxic11
06-10-2012, 08:05 AM
i dont know if this is a stupid question or not but how come they cant tune the 2010 ecu to have the active intake capability? is it impossible?


I think they can, if they use a 2010 5.7 Ram PCM I remember reading somewhere that someone did it and kept the active intake.

But even if you didn't go that route, it would be easy enough to just wire the active manifold motor to an RPM window switch and set it to 4500RPM.

smitman
06-10-2012, 02:24 PM
Damn that's ridiculous. That's ruffly the price of a base model Challenger Lol. 18 grand is just outrageous.

Yup, they include catback, and long tubes .....Still gonna pass....maybe the guy was "Wishing" he could get 18k....

smitman
06-10-2012, 02:25 PM
Yup, they include catback, and long tubes .....Still gonna pass....maybe the guy was "Wishing" he could get 18k....

...and also an upgrade to A5....Still gonna pass....

Krazyfast11
06-10-2012, 02:36 PM
When The day comes that I can have my stock active intake with a procharger type supercharger on my 2011 392 then count me in! I too want to keep a 2011 computer in my car.

GoFastChallenger
06-11-2012, 02:50 PM
well according to toxic it is possible so that and a B&G S/C tune and you should be golden(if this scenario is possible)

Toxic11
06-11-2012, 03:20 PM
I'm not saying 100% that it's possible, but I was under the impression if a Ram PCM was used it could be done, the Ram has VCT and Variable Intake.

Another way to do it would be to go to a 2010 PCM and used an RPM Window Switch (adjustable) and some creative wiring of the Variable Path Motor.

GoFastChallenger
06-11-2012, 09:05 PM
well there ya go crazyfast i dont know if that really gives you much to work with but for now thats better than nothing if your willing to go that extra mile... if only dodge weren't a bunch of whiny thieves we could tune em ourselves

70TA-09RT
06-12-2012, 03:24 AM
Hey all Dyno will be checking in once he gets his Site permissions. He has done a 2012 Auto Challenger it's in the shop up and running... Once he get's here I'm sure he will share the different package levels that are going to be offered theres more to the complete package than what has been discussed...

Flat Top
06-12-2012, 02:40 PM
This should make alot of eager owners happy.
FT

Krazyfast11
06-12-2012, 02:54 PM
GOfast: Why would I need a Ram PCM? My 2011 has all that now so why couldn't I just take a spare 2011 SRT PCM and have it tuned for the procharger upgrade? There is already a procharger that bolts on to the 6.1s and I think for the supercharger bolt up it is identical on the 6.4, they are identical. If so that is now entirely bolt on plug and play system...and just as easy to revert back to stock by reversing the procedure. The only question I had was if the boost would affect the active intake in any way. This all sounds way to easy for me to be the first guy bringing it up. There is no reason this can't be done for under 7K.

GoFastChallenger
06-12-2012, 03:11 PM
what i was referring to was taking a 2010 chally PCM and making it so we could use an active intake with that PCM instead of having to purchase a new intake which doesnt give both low end and top end torque. i think what toxic was referring to was using a Ram PCM because thats probably the easier rout to take instead of wiring the intake manifold motor to your RPM window switch and setting it to 4500RPM... to answer ur question a little more clearly, u dont need Ram PCM u could use the one you have and wire the manifold motor to the RPM window switch and set it to 4500RPM THEN have your PCM tuned by B&G for a S/C.

Krazyfast11
06-12-2012, 03:25 PM
GoFast: Ok maybe I'm a little confused. Could I not just leave the intake as it is (in other words don't rewire the rpm window). Then bolt on a procharger and slip in a 2011 PCM that is tuned for a supercharger. There shouldn't have to be any other changes made right?? Secondly you mention 4500rpm is that different than what is set from the factory for the active intakes?? Thx

GoFastChallenger
06-12-2012, 03:35 PM
to be honest with you i have no idea what would happen if you just kept your intake on and boosted it, just a guess you would definitely lose your top end TQ, and could possibly ruin the active intake mechanism that opens and closes, as for the factory RPM range, dynos have shown that there is a bit of power lose around 4000 RPMS not quite sure if its exactly 4500 RPMS though. there are threads related to the active intake on here where you can find out more info on this subject.

B5SRT86spd
06-12-2012, 03:46 PM
Believe it's 4800 RPM to switch to short runners

Toxic11
06-12-2012, 04:25 PM
GoFast brought up a good point about the intake runner valves.. We don't even know if they can handle boost. I haven't torn apart a 392 manifold but I've seen a cutaway and the valves look to be plastic, the motor is probably a stepper design, if the valves can handle the boost I'm sure the actual stepper motor can.

We won't know till someone does it.. I am real curious to see what they are going to do with 392's IE that's being twin turbo'd.