Hey friends. I just bought a new '12 R/T 5.7 6-speed & am wondering exactly what was it that gave the old MOPARs their great sound. I am wanting that sound on mine. Street Hemi mufflers? Street Hemi mufflers & resonators? Also, will SRT8 6.1 factory ex manifolds slip right in with no further mods? What about 6.4 ones? Planning on putting about a 270 cam in as well, along with whatever springs are required, a Diablo tuner, and??? (suggestions?) Thanks in advance!!!.....Dave in Michigan, just north of Notre Dame Indiana NOTE: Check out Steve White Motors in Hickory NC, I flew down & drove back 700 miles because they gave such a great deal.

I have 40 series flow masters no resonators. I don't mind what they call "drone" after all you don't ask for loud and then complain about cabin noise.

I guess you can find a smaller type muffler to go in the back where the resonators are and remove the middle bigger mufflers all together. That would help reduce cabin noise.

I am very happy with my 40 series flowmasters

Hey friends. I just bought a new '12 R/T 5.7 6-speed & am wondering exactly what was it that gave the old MOPARs their great sound. I am wanting that sound on mine. Street Hemi mufflers? Street Hemi mufflers & resonators? Also, will SRT8 6.1 factory ex manifolds slip right in with no further mods? What about 6.4 ones? Planning on putting about a 270 cam in as well, along with whatever springs are required, a Diablo tuner, and??? (suggestions?) Thanks in advance!!!.....Dave in Michigan, just north of Notre Dame Indiana NOTE: Check out Steve White Motors in Hickory NC, I flew down & drove back 700 miles because they gave such a great deal.


Well first off, with a 2012 model tuning is an issue and a lot of mods will require that.

As for the old muscle car sound, the old muscle cars from like '65-'75 did NOT have cats. All the old MOPARS with dual exhaust had an H pipe right about where the trans and bell housing came together. The mufflers weren't all that good but "turbo mufflers" were available and flowed pretty well in those days [thanks Corvair]. A lot of people ran thrush glass packs which were loud as hell and had an incredibly tinny sound. Some of the guys I raced with ran glass packs bolted directly to the end of their long tubes. The factory mufflers would be considered too restrictive by today's standards.

Long tubes, no cats, and a Borla cat back will get you really close to that sound. But like I said, tuning will be an issue on the 2012.

Good luck.

Might want to check out Zoomers and Solo cat back systems also. I am going to decide between those two when I have the extra funds.

Unfortunately, no tuning is available for 2011 and up models for right now.

You can never make a modern can sound just like the old carbed big blocks. However, Zoomers exhaust will give you a very close sound to that. No other exhaust I've heard has that deep, raw, old school sound.

Hey friends. I just bought a new '12 R/T 5.7 6-speed & am wondering exactly what was it that gave the old MOPARs their great sound. I am wanting that sound on mine. Street Hemi mufflers? Street Hemi mufflers & resonators? Also, will SRT8 6.1 factory ex manifolds slip right in with no further mods? What about 6.4 ones?

The 6.1/6.4 'clamshells' will bolt right up, you'll need the 6.1/6.4 headpipes/cats as the bolt/collector pattern is slightly different from the 5.7, as well as the routing of the headpipes.

Another point to consider is the VCT (5.7, 6.4) alters the pitch of the exhaust, so that along with the cats, mufflers and resonators create a different type of sound vs. the old fixed timing of the older engines.

You can never make a modern can sound just like the old carbed big blocks. However, Zoomers exhaust will give you a very close sound to that. No other exhaust I've heard has that deep, raw, old school sound.
What about Flowmaster? Does it bring also that sound?
I was just asking this question on another thread.

I have Magaflow Competition series on my Challenger. Have been told my car sounds great several times.

I've always been curious as to what really IS the "60/70's Mopar sound". Somebody linked me to a video once, when I inquired on this particular thing, but it just sounded like any sort of vintage v8 with a free-flowing exhaust. I don't get what really made it "Mopar".

I would describe it in words, but I have no idea what is distinctive about the sound, in the first place. Is it in the sharpness of the crackle as it idles? Is it a particular pitch when running the rpm? Is it something about the balance between high and low frequencies in the sound? Is it the lumpiness or smoothness at idle? Does it have a certain staccato pattern? Is it a particular blend of even and odd harmonics?

you want the old vintage mopar 440 sound eeh? cut off the catalytic convertors,spray the inside and outside of your exhaust pipes with salt water and stick some thrush mufflers near the back,after you have poured some motor oil in them and thrown them in a burn barrel for a few hours....only then can you truly achieve that wonderful old sound of raw mopar power!

^^^ That's funny! I used to run hush thrush on big block Mopars. Nothing sounds like a big block Magnum Mopar!!!

Vintage Mopars have a unique sound. Easily identifiable next to other cars, especially Chevrolets. I'm not sure why.

To me, Mopars always had the most interesting sound. Kinda high-pitched, with a tinny resonance at idle. They don't have the low burble that Fords have, and they don't have the consistent rumble of a Chevrolet. Honestly, they sound like massive motors exhausting through cheap mufflers. The sound is not rich, it is not deep, and it is absolutely unique.

I've listened to countless sound clips of various exhaust systems. None duplicate that "Classic Mopar" sound, period. Actually, the stock exhaust on my '12 R/T is the closest I've heard, although toned down substantially. At idle and low RPM, I could easily say that my Challenger is a Mopar. Tinny, light, erratic, and you can hear the engine noises.

Now, for aftermarket......

Two things;

One; my other vehicle is a Ram 2500 5.7 Hemi (2004). It has a Flowmaster cat-back with the 50 series muffler, single inlet, dual outlet. It has a sound that everyone likes for the most part. Honestly, the sound is great, but over time the noise level has gotten to me. As far as sound quality, it's a perfect compliment to the Ram. I just wish it was a little quieter. Even the mechanic that works on it always comments about how the truck is thunderous.

I'm really interested in the Flowmaster Force II systems for the Challenger, because I really like the tone I get on my Ram, and the Force II is supposed to be similar, but much quieter.

Honestly, the best sound quality I've heard on any YouTube clip (for the Challenger), IMO, goes to MBRP. I can't comment on the actual volume level, but the pitch, sound quality, and tone is what I would associate with a Mopar. If I can hear one in person, and determine just how loud it would be, it would help. Because it it is what I think it is, it might just edge out the Flowmaster.

2010 Challenger with MBRP Exhaust - YouTube


I don't think you can reproduce "that sound". The engines are so different, the fuel delivery is different, everything is night and day.....

In the end, you'll have to pick one you like.

These new Challengers sound absolutely nothing like an old school small or big block Mopar.

1970 Dodge Super Bee idling and shaking the pavement - YouTube (http://youtu.be/m3L5Oo_xrwA)

What about Flowmaster? Does it bring also that sound?
I was just asking this question on another thread.

So far Zoomers, SOLO and MBRP (Dronelss one with tuning pipes) make the best systems that sound amazing and "right". I heard Borla sounds good too but drones a bit however it looks the best out of any exhaust available on the market BY FAR, even better looking than the Corsa.

I want that sound of the factory 440s, for instance, like in "Bullet". Probably THE BEST example in films was in "Payback", with Mel Gibson, after they ran their Nova headon into the chows, his wife pulled up in the Roadrunner. Mel got in & nailed it...CUT - commercial break KILLED the sound before the shift. When I was in about 8th grade, a senior who lived across the street would come home for lunch in his silver NEW '69 SuperBee, 383 4-speed, and leave EVERY DAY with a cloud of smoke & THE SOUND. I'm SERIOUSLY considering chopping the mufflers out & connecting the pipes back together with straight pipe. I can always put the mufflers back on with slip connectors or flange them...

I want that sound of the factory 440s, for instance, like in "Bullet". Probably THE BEST example in films was in "Payback", with Mel Gibson, after they ran their Nova headon into the chows, his wife pulled up in the Roadrunner. Mel got in & nailed it...CUT - commercial break KILLED the sound before the shift. When I was in about 8th grade, a senior who lived across the street would come home for lunch in his silver NEW '69 SuperBee, 383 4-speed, and leave EVERY DAY with a cloud of smoke & THE SOUND. I'm SERIOUSLY considering chopping the mufflers out & connecting the pipes back together with straight pipe. I can always put the mufflers back on with slip connectors or flange them...

Until you get 440cid you won't get the sound of a 440. Now maybe with an Arrignton Stroker [they do make a 440] and no cats and long tubes and a Borla cat back.

You can get pretty close to a 383 right now and no cats and long tubes will get you the sound.

The bad news is you will never make a modern hemi sound like an old school 440. The old school big block Mopars had a great sound, but the new hemi sounds good, too. But they will never sound alike, they are completely different. The 440 is a big block with wedge heads and far more aggressive cam profiles. The modern hemi is a small block with far less cam than a 383 2-bbl, and is running cats.

Go to the 3:20 mark in following video as they drive around a 68 Coronet R/T (base engine 440 vs 383 in the SuperBee). This should bring back some good memories of your friends 69 SuperBee...

The Cars of Queens: Part I - BIG MUSCLE - YouTube

That was a fantastic sampling of sound in an afternoon muscle car drive-along!

I was sitting in the lot of a store talking on my phone and this guy driving a 79 Camero parked next to me. His girl got out of the car and went into the store. They guy was looking over at me and kept revving his engine so I turn my car on and started revving mine. After telling the person I was talking too I'll call back I notice a crowd around our cars listening as we took turns revving. Most of the people said my exhaust was sounding better. I don't like the sound of those oldschool cars

I like these cars but not the sound. I like the deep roar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkfAzA7ns-k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRwADEv2Nac&feature=related

Vintage Mopars have a unique sound. Easily identifiable next to other cars, especially Chevrolets. I'm not sure why.

To me, Mopars always had the most interesting sound. Kinda high-pitched, with a tinny resonance at idle. They don't have the low burble that Fords have, and they don't have the consistent rumble of a Chevrolet. Honestly, they sound like massive motors exhausting through cheap mufflers. The sound is not rich, it is not deep, and it is absolutely unique.

I've listened to countless sound clips of various exhaust systems. None duplicate that "Classic Mopar" sound, period. Actually, the stock exhaust on my '12 R/T is the closest I've heard, although toned down substantially. At idle and low RPM, I could easily say that my Challenger is a Mopar. Tinny, light, erratic, and you can hear the engine noises.

Now, for aftermarket......

Two things;

One; my other vehicle is a Ram 2500 5.7 Hemi (2004). It has a Flowmaster cat-back with the 50 series muffler, single inlet, dual outlet. It has a sound that everyone likes for the most part. Honestly, the sound is great, but over time the noise level has gotten to me. As far as sound quality, it's a perfect compliment to the Ram. I just wish it was a little quieter. Even the mechanic that works on it always comments about how the truck is thunderous.

I'm really interested in the Flowmaster Force II systems for the Challenger, because I really like the tone I get on my Ram, and the Force II is supposed to be similar, but much quieter.

Honestly, the best sound quality I've heard on any YouTube clip (for the Challenger), IMO, goes to MBRP. I can't comment on the actual volume level, but the pitch, sound quality, and tone is what I would associate with a Mopar. If I can hear one in person, and determine just how loud it would be, it would help. Because it it is what I think it is, it might just edge out the Flowmaster.

2010 Challenger with MBRP Exhaust - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuQ6Y3f2opw)


I don't think you can reproduce "that sound". The engines are so different, the fuel delivery is different, everything is night and day.....

In the end, you'll have to pick one you like.
I like the sound on the movie, but nothing like the old days...

These new Challengers sound absolutely nothing like an old school small or big block Mopar.

1970 Dodge Super Bee idling and shaking the pavement - YouTube (http://youtu.be/m3L5Oo_xrwA)
RRhemi, I like the idle sound of the Super Bee, it remind me some good memories.

The bad news is you will never make a modern hemi sound like an old school 440. The old school big block Mopars had a great sound, but the new hemi sounds good, too. But they will never sound alike, they are completely different. The 440 is a big block with wedge heads and far more aggressive cam profiles. The modern hemi is a small block with far less cam than a 383 2-bbl, and is running cats.

Go to the 3:20 mark in following video as they drive around a 68 Coronet R/T (base engine 440 vs 383 in the SuperBee). This should bring back some good memories of your friends 69 SuperBee...

The Cars of Queens: Part I - BIG MUSCLE - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzxcPhQPrew&feature=relmfu)
At the 3:26 it is really awesome!
I started thinking about these Super Bees and Coronets.

So those Camaros are, shall we say, a very sharp sound, right? That is just a very unmuffled exhaust with a cam that is on the aggressive tune side to the point it can barely idle, right? Is there more to the sound that I missed?

So those Camaros are, shall we say, a very sharp sound, right? That is just a very unmuffled exhaust with a cam that is on the aggressive tune side to the point it can barely idle, right? Is there more to the sound that I missed?

That's not a stock engine in that Super Bee - plus it has headers as well - which contributes to the sound qualities.

Granted a stock 383 w/ cast-iron exhaust manifolds is louder than today's cars - my friends '69 Bee has a mild (Mopar purple shaft) cam, and full exhaust, and its noticeably louder.

The one in this post's video sounds great, but that's hard to compare since it has a number of mods beyond stock, and whatever mufflers are on it as well.

This sounds great and very much like some of the old Mopars or the 60's, but I heard quite a bit of drone and they are saying there isn't any? I will have to play it again or find someone who has the syatem and sit in it. Drone kills my ears for some reason, so I haveto stay away from that.

I'm a Corsa fan myself. Check out the Corsa website and listen to their different sounds. No drone with Corsa at all, but when you stomp on it the thing screams!

Vintage Mopars have a unique sound. Easily identifiable next to other cars, especially Chevrolets. I'm not sure why.

To me, Mopars always had the most interesting sound. Kinda high-pitched, with a tinny resonance at idle. They don't have the low burble that Fords have, and they don't have the consistent rumble of a Chevrolet. Honestly, they sound like massive motors exhausting through cheap mufflers. The sound is not rich, it is not deep, and it is absolutely unique.

I've listened to countless sound clips of various exhaust systems. None duplicate that "Classic Mopar" sound, period. Actually, the stock exhaust on my '12 R/T is the closest I've heard, although toned down substantially. At idle and low RPM, I could easily say that my Challenger is a Mopar. Tinny, light, erratic, and you can hear the engine noises.

Now, for aftermarket......

Two things;

One; my other vehicle is a Ram 2500 5.7 Hemi (2004). It has a Flowmaster cat-back with the 50 series muffler, single inlet, dual outlet. It has a sound that everyone likes for the most part. Honestly, the sound is great, but over time the noise level has gotten to me. As far as sound quality, it's a perfect compliment to the Ram. I just wish it was a little quieter. Even the mechanic that works on it always comments about how the truck is thunderous.

I'm really interested in the Flowmaster Force II systems for the Challenger, because I really like the tone I get on my Ram, and the Force II is supposed to be similar, but much quieter.

Honestly, the best sound quality I've heard on any YouTube clip (for the Challenger), IMO, goes to MBRP. I can't comment on the actual volume level, but the pitch, sound quality, and tone is what I would associate with a Mopar. If I can hear one in person, and determine just how loud it would be, it would help. Because it it is what I think it is, it might just edge out the Flowmaster.

2010 Challenger with MBRP Exhaust - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuQ6Y3f2opw)


I don't think you can reproduce "that sound". The engines are so different, the fuel delivery is different, everything is night and day.....

In the end, you'll have to pick one you like.

The all stock 70 Super Bee I had sounded exactly like this:

Plymouth Roadrunner 1970 , 383cui 4 bbl Cherry Bomb - YouTube (http://youtu.be/OZjsUWYlQTU)

You can never make a modern can sound just like the old carbed big blocks. However, Zoomers exhaust will give you a very close sound to that. No other exhaust I've heard has that deep, raw, old school sound.
x2....zoomers imho is the closest by far.

Hey friends. I just bought a new '12 R/T 5.7 6-speed & am wondering exactly what was it that gave the old MOPARs their great sound. I am wanting that sound on mine. Street Hemi mufflers? Street Hemi mufflers & resonators? Also, will SRT8 6.1 factory ex manifolds slip right in with no further mods? What about 6.4 ones? Planning on putting about a 270 cam in as well, along with whatever springs are required, a Diablo tuner, and??? (suggestions?) Thanks in advance!!!.....Dave in Michigan, just north of Notre Dame Indiana NOTE: Check out Steve White Motors in Hickory NC, I flew down & drove back 700 miles because they gave such a great deal.

Check out my 2012 Challenger R/T Classic..the mufflers are Cherry Bomb Extreme w/gibson shorty headers. The video doesnt do it justice..but it sounds very aggressive in person. I also use the same mufflers on my 69 Chevy CST-10.

Challenger R/T Classic 6-Speed - YouTube (http://youtu.be/gDPKd4M5fDc)

The all stock 70 Super Bee I had sounded exactly like this:

Plymouth Roadrunner 1970 , 383cui 4 bbl Cherry Bomb - YouTube (http://youtu.be/OZjsUWYlQTU)

Wow, this sounded almost exactly the same as my modded '74 360 Roadrunner. I had headers on it with some shorter than stock turbo mufflers on it with the stock red/stainless tips. It took an aftermarket version of the "purple" cam to really make it sound right. I don't remember what was different between the factory "purple" cam and the aftermarket one, but they sure sounded different.

Those 68-70 Magnum engines had a lot of "lump" to them.

Check out my 2012 Challenger R/T Classic..the mufflers are Cherry Bomb Extreme w/gibson shorty headers. The video doesnt do it justice..but it sounds very aggressive in person. I also use the same mufflers on my 69 Chevy CST-10.

Challenger R/T Classic 6-Speed - YouTube (http://youtu.be/gDPKd4M5fDc)

Dalton, that sounds GREAT! I love the sound on decel too. My exhaust sounds very similar on my '12 R/T. Here's a couple of photos - all chambered exhaust. We re-used the 2.5" OE midpipe & went with 3" tailpipes for a deeper sound. The system ends with some shorty 3" Powersticks where 3" inlet Pypes quad-tips attach to.

What's missing in the new sound is the cam profile. That's one main difference. The new engines idle too smoothly, not that there is anything wrong with it.

Dalton, that sounds GREAT! I love the sound on decel too. My exhaust sounds very similar on my '12 R/T. Here's a couple of photos - all chambered exhaust. We re-used the 2.5" OE midpipe & went with 3" tailpipes for a deeper sound. The system ends with some shorty 3" Powersticks where 3" inlet Pypes quad-tips attach to.

Thank you!!! I love the sound of Pypes too. I like chambered mufflers I don't like how smooth turbo mufflers sound. I've been on the fence over quad tips not really feeling the stock tips anymore. I love the looks of the 70 challengers quad tips.