: Manual transmission problems
kln19772000 07-14-2012, 02:55 PM At high speeds switching from 4th to 5th gear there is a slight grind, also there is a grind putting it in reverse standing still. Thoughts guys?
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Powerstick 07-14-2012, 09:03 PM And on this topic, mine is a 2012 R/T & sometimes I have trouble from first to second - wants to go into 4th. Sometimes I have to go up into 3rd & skip second. It is touchy!
Tricki68 07-14-2012, 09:10 PM And on this topic, mine is a 2012 R/T & sometimes I have trouble from first to second - wants to go into 4th. Sometimes I have to go up into 3rd & skip second. It is touchy!
That sounds like the "skip shift"
REVdoctors 07-14-2012, 10:54 PM For the 1st-2nd grind its most likely gonna be that synchro. Same for your reverse. You can try switching your gear oil for a thicker viscosity. That would help the input shaft slow down faster during shifts.
And for the one with no second gear, can you put the car in 2nd when its turned off? If you can't or it does but pops out then the fork that hold the synchos collar is bent or broken.
Good luck
plmcrzy4455 07-15-2012, 05:09 AM Hey guys, I am new to all of this, and I am having the same issues. We did find out about the second gear is an emissions saver. If the car is in the right situation you have to bypass second and go straight to third gear. There is a piece you can have installed to make this not happen. :/ If you are not sure if this is an actual error shifting or not, you can tell on the dash where the odometer is and it will read 1--4. This means you can skip second and go right to third.
But, I too am having a hard time changing gears. Sometimes my shifter is nice and smooth going between gears and other time is has rough, noisey, and more clunky. My car only has 6200 miles on it and this just doesn't make sense to me at all.
Frustrated!
plmcrzy4455 07-15-2012, 05:11 AM Hey guys, I am new to all of this, and I am having the same issues. We did find out about the second gear is an emissions saver. If the car is in the right situation you have to bypass second and go straight to third gear. There is a piece you can have installed to make this not happen. :/ If you are not sure if this is an actual error shifting or not, you can tell on the dash where the odometer is and it will read 1--4. This means you can skip second and go right to third.
But, I too am having a hard time changing gears. Sometimes my shifter is nice and smooth going between gears and other time is has rough, noisey, and more clunky. My car only has 6200 miles on it and this just doesn't make sense to me at all.
Frustrated!
Yellow Jacket 2012 07-15-2012, 05:44 AM If you are not sure if this is an actual error shifting or not, you can tell on the dash where the odometer is and it will read 1--4. This means you can skip second and go right to third.
No, it's directing you to go from first to fourth. It's very unsettling when your expecting to go to second only to be locked out and lose the acceleration you were planning to have in second.
Powerstick 07-15-2012, 10:08 AM No, it's directing you to go from first to fourth. It's very unsettling when your expecting to go to second only to be locked out and lose the acceleration you were planning to have in second.
That's just weird! I'll check with my dealer to see if there is a procedure to stop this. Seems like this happens when I'm turning & shifting easy.
Rumblefish50 07-15-2012, 01:45 PM Yeah what it does is lock out second and smoothly slides you right into fourth so by the time you realize you've been had you are already in fourth.
It does it right around 19 mph too which can put you in a tricky situation suddenly being in 4th gear at 20 mph. You can still use 2nd you just have to bump another gear first. It's annoying because whoever is behind you has to brake to avoid rear ending you since you basically just started from a light and then stopped accelerating at 20 mph. No one is expecting that so it catches everyone involved (including you) off guard while you sort it out and then start accelerating again.
Easy fix, though, for like 20 bucks just get a skip shift eliminator. I think Speedlogix has one. Been meaning to pick one up myself.
I understand why they did it but still think it was just a bad idea. It's just a matter of time until the odds catch up to someone out there and they get into a possibly bad accident because of it.
Yellow Jacket 2012 07-15-2012, 07:50 PM That's just weird! I'll check with my dealer to see if there is a procedure to stop this. Seems like this happens when I'm turning & shifting easy.
In your car when delivered was there an instructional sleeve over the passenger sun visor? I looked at mine today for the first time in the 2 1/2 weeks since buying the car and it's explained there. It also refers you to the owners manual for greater details.
I went to the vendor Speedlogix here and bought the eliminator. I wouldn't point it out to the dealer just buy the part, install it and enjoy the new way to shift your car. The dealer will give you some nonsense and then look for it as opposed to never noticing the wire is there.
plmcrzy4455 07-16-2012, 10:00 AM Well, I bought it used, so thanks to this wonderful site....i have found out a lot of information. I dont have an owners manuel, just the quick look book. I really want the dvd for the car.
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AllMoparParts.com 07-16-2012, 07:06 PM If you guys don't mind pulling out units and rebuilding them I'd be HTH with diags and parts for you.
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70TA-09RT 07-25-2012, 06:10 PM At high speeds switching from 4th to 5th gear there is a slight grind, also there is a grind putting it in reverse standing still. Thoughts guys?
Thank you
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It almost sounds like the throw out is hanging. Haven't heard of 4th to 5th but did get a little grind in reverse when it was new. nothing anymore.
kln19772000 07-25-2012, 06:16 PM It grinds from 4th to 5th only over 3500 rpms and always in reverse. I am not getting this. It's a 2009 with 18,000 miles on it.
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70TA-09RT 07-25-2012, 06:23 PM It grinds from 4th to 5th only over 3500 rpms and always in reverse. I am not getting this. It's a 2009 with 18,000 miles on it.
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Thrasher 03-12-2013, 11:13 AM Wondering if you have resolved this. My car often grinds when going into reverse. Say about 30 - 40% of the time. The work-around for me is to shift the transmission into another gear before putting it in reverse - then I don't get the grind (at least I don't get it about 99% of the time). Still... I shouldn't have to do that - and I didn't have a problem for the first 25 thousand Kilometers (approx 16,000 miles) My car is a 2011 Classic R/T.
WyGoSlw 03-12-2013, 11:59 AM You can try switching your gear oil for a thicker viscosity. That would help the input shaft slow down faster during shifts.
Do NOT do this. This Tremek Trans is designed to operate with synthetic ATF+4 lubricant, you dump anything else in there and you will more than likely brake it.
Wondering if you have resolved this. My car often grinds when going into reverse. Say about 30 - 40% of the time. The work-around for me is to shift the transmission into another gear before putting it in reverse - then I don't get the grind (at least I don't get it about 99% of the time). Still... I shouldn't have to do that - and I didn't have a problem for the first 25 thousand Kilometers (approx 16,000 miles) My car is a 2011 Classic R/T.
Reverse is synchronized on these transmissions, the question is does it share a synchro or does it have its own? If it shares a synchro with another set of gears it stands to reason that another gear is displaying issues along with reverse. Maybe someone else that has seen the internals of this gearbox can chime in and let us know.
J Willis R/T13 03-14-2013, 09:19 AM I have a grind going to reverse pretty regularly. The reverse is being rebuild in my tranny new week. I'm kinda disappointed since my R/T has less than 4800 miles.
Thrasher 03-14-2013, 09:56 AM I have a grind going to reverse pretty regularly. The reverse is being rebuild in my tranny new week. I'm kinda disappointed since my R/T has less than 4800 miles.
can you confirm the year of your vehicle.
J Willis R/T13 03-14-2013, 11:27 AM It's a 2013, built in September of 2012. Reverse is synchronized separately from the other gears so they will only have to change those parts.
Thrasher 03-14-2013, 11:38 AM It's a 2013, built in September of 2012. Reverse is synchronized separately from the other gears so they will only have to change those parts.
Thanks for that. Please let us know what happens. Sounds like you and I share the exact same issue.
J Willis R/T13 03-14-2013, 12:09 PM I sure will. I will probably start a new thread later tonight or tomorrow. I have had other issues too.
J Willis R/T13 04-09-2013, 09:37 AM I just got my R/T back and my paperwork stated tore down and found reverse gear syncro and blocker ring blued due to excessive heat. Friction surface on blocker ring worn. Something still don't feel just right but the service manager said to drive it to see if everything loosens up. If not bring it back.
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