Hello, here are the pics of my rear tires of my 2011 Challenger RT. Tires of Firestone Firehawk GT's. There appears to be a real smooth spot down the middle and most of the crevices and nooks/crannies are smoothed out.

Here are the pics:

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http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p531/napolitan8/tire1.jpg



http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p531/napolitan8/tire4.jpg



http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p531/napolitan8/tire2.jpg


thanks

Yes, well past the tread life marker and bald for sure.

Looks like the alignment is off also, worn more on the inside of tire.

Definitely. When you are at the tread wear bars, you only have 2/32 of tread left. Also, for future reference, you can use the old penny trick. Simply, stick a penney into the tread and if you can see the top of Lincoln's head, your tires are worn out.

Since you need new tires, film a few smokey burnouts!

Yea I'd be looking for a new set. Question, how many miles did you get out of the stock Firehawks, and did you rotate?

Good time to roast, rotate, and roast again on the way to the tire shop. :-)

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You are definitely in need of a new set. I'm also curious how many miles you got off of those and how on how many rotations. I had a tire rotation done every other oil change and ended up getting 27k miles on my first set. Glad I did the regular rotation....a fresh set of tires will run ya about $1800-$2000 unless you know a guy. Thankfully my bro works at a major auto dealership and I was able to get buy 3 get 1 free at the employee price. Replaced and balanced for $1350

simple answer is yes!

Are your tires over-inflated too? only worn in the center...

-Where did you guys get that it will cost $2000 for 4 new tires. I was looking online and saw that these Firestone Firehawk GT's 245/45/20 were about 220 dollars each?

-I got about 9 months and 10k miles out of tires. I did not rotate the tires and the ones in the front look a bit better. Please also keep in mind that I did some childish things like burnouts here and there and donuts, etc. Of course I will never do that again with my new tires.

-Is it normal to see the wear more in the middle for burnouts, peelouts, and donuts, or could there be an alignment problem. I had alignment problems in the front, but never the rear?

Yes you need new tires. You also may need an alignment. We can't help you with the alignment but we'd love to help you with a new set of tires. Let us know how we can help.

Mr. Discount Tire or anyone else, do you have a link for the exact tires I have on my car now:

The internet can be very confusing. I googled Firestone Firehawk GT245/45/20 and was very surprised to see like 20 different selections and prices?

All I want is exactly what is ony my car now (from factory).

Hello, will look to replace them:

Questions

-is it possible to drive on it like this for about 2 weeks, as long as it isnt raining. Is a blowout possible?

-How much would it cost for 4 of these same exact firestone firehawk gt stock tires

-Would doing things like burnouts, peelouts, and drifts make the rear look like that uneven pattern. I will not be doing that again with the new tires, but I want to know will getting the sideways make that uneven pattern in the rear.

These are arguably bald. They are good for one thing only. Go smoke them out on your way to the tire shop. See how much rubber you can lay to the ground. Have fun.

You have way more wear on the inside of your tires indicating that your wheels are out of alignment. You should have even tire wear and you need to rotate your tires more often. Why on earth would you want to put the same tires back on when you only got 10K miles on them. Go with a better brand for better mileage. You can get the same or better traction and get 3 or 4 times the mileage. Unless your money grows on trees change brands.

A pothole knocked out my front alignment, but after some front end work it is better. But even with frotn end issues, the tires look good up top.

Now in the rear, they look like this. What would cause rear end mis alignment?

Are you sure doing stuff like drifitng, peelouts, and donuts wont cause uneven wear like that. If you are constantly turning in circles laying rubber, how will the tire wear evenly?

Mr. Discount Tire or anyone else, do you have a link for the exact tires I have on my car now:

The internet can be very confusing. I googled Firestone Firehawk GT245/45/20 and was very surprised to see like 20 different selections and prices?

All I want is exactly what is ony my car now (from factory).

We don't sell Firestone tires at this time.

If you change your mind and want to put a comparable tire on we have quite a few options. Give us a call and one of our sales agents will be happy to make a recommendation that fits your driving habits and vehicle needs.

Tire Products - Discount Tire Direct (http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/searchTiresBySize.do?sw=false&cs=245&ar=45&rd=20)

A pothole knocked out my front alignment, but after some front end work it is better. But even with frotn end issues, the tires look good up top.

Now in the rear, they look like this. What would cause rear end mis alignment?

Are you sure doing stuff like drifitng, peelouts, and donuts wont cause uneven wear like that. If you are constantly turning in circles laying rubber, how will the tire wear evenly?

Are you kidding? Tires are round and they spin. If your tires are balanced and aligned properly they will wear evenly whether your burn rubber or spinning them and sliding sideways. They are still spinning around and are not flat or stationary so they will wear evenly even though your are tearing the rubber off of them by doing donuts and burnouts. The properly balanced and aligned tire will have the weight of the car equally over the width of the tires and will wear evenly. The back will wear out before the front from the burnouts and such, that is why you need to rotate them more ofter. A tire with a little harder compound will hold up better durning burnouts too. You need to read up on tire wear and how to buy tires for the type of driving that you do.

The Eagle F1 SuperCar Tires from Goodyear are the stock R/T and I think SRT tires as well. 245/45Z20. You can google search all you want. If the vendor doesn't have the specific tire, they will "recommend" a "similar" tire (usually not Z-rated). Those are a lot cheaper than the tires that came on my Challenger. I ended up having to go to a dealer and order them. Ended up being $1700+ for the tires, plus the added expense of track and balance. If you want to go with a cheap tire to save money, that's up to you. I figure this is the only part of your car that actually comes in contact with the road (hopefully!), might as well buy the tires that are supposed to be on it. Also, if you paid as much as you most likely did for your Challenger, why would you go cheap on crappy tires? Just my opinion. Was a pain trying to explain to the wife why it was necessary to drop that much money on tires. :slant:

And as for driving on bald tires.....I pu**yfooted my ride til my tires were on order. Then I was doing burnouts and fishtailin' corners every chance I had until they came in. Was a lot of fun finishing off those tires. I probably got lucky they didn't blow. I had another vehicle to fall back on just in case they did though. Might be something you want to take into consideration before you go having too much fun!

tommasom that tire wear is abnormal. As stated above tire wear should be even across the tread surface. You need to have a 4 wheel alignment done before putting on new tires and by all means finish those old skins off in extremely large plumes of smoke!

"Won't ever do burnouts, donuts or drifting again."

Yeah, right! :rofl:

depends upon how you drive and whether you see snow. You do appear to have an alignment problem. If this was on a Toyota daily driver, I'd ignore it - get about another 7000 miles on them - and put them on the rear. If you hop on your car frequently, you might want new tires.

my 2010 R/T has goodyear RSA's. I am surprised the Firestone became the company vendor. Also, 10000 miles is absolutely awful - except the OP keeps talking about donuts & burn outs. Not a good way to extend the mileage of your tires.

I had a 4 wheel alignment done on my 4 week old car done before I put on my new wheels and tires. It was off (out of spec) from the factory. So, I am not surprised on the bad wear pattern.

I just bought 4 firestone firehawk gt 99v tires. The price is 980.00 and this includes mounting, balancing, and shipping.

Someone was talking abou z rating. What does this mean? The tires that I have on my car now (stock) say 245/45/20 99v m+2 245/45/20 Firestone Firehawk GT. Does this mean I have a V rating?

I just bought 4 firestone firehawk gt 99v tires. The price is 980.00 and this includes mounting, balancing, and shipping.

Someone was talking abou z rating. What does this mean? The tires that I have on my car now (stock) say 245/45/20 99v m+2 245/45/20 Firestone Firehawk GT. Does this mean I have a V rating? Yes. 99 is load rating and "V" is the speed rating (150 mph IIRC). ...although I believe the "M+2" you mentioned is supposed to be "M+S" to indicate mud plus snow (all season).

My only question is, did you have fun doing it? burn outs doughnuts ect.

The Eagle F1 SuperCar Tires from Goodyear are the stock R/T and I think SRT tires as well. 245/45Z20. You can google search all you want. If the vendor doesn't have the specific tire, they will "recommend" a "similar" tire (usually not Z-rated). Those are a lot cheaper than the tires that came on my Challenger. I ended up having to go to a dealer and order them. Ended up being $1700+ for the tires, plus the added expense of track and balance. If you want to go with a cheap tire to save money, that's up to you. I figure this is the only part of your car that actually comes in contact with the road (hopefully!), might as well buy the tires that are supposed to be on it. Also, if you paid as much as you most likely did for your Challenger, why would you go cheap on crappy tires? Just my opinion. Was a pain trying to explain to the wife why it was necessary to drop that much money on tires. :slant:


If you buy tires just for the BRAND name then you are paying way too much for your tires. It is a known fact that less expensive tires are every bit as good and in many many cases much better. Your money must grow on trees but when it comes to selecting tires you have no clue. You think because a tire is less expensive then it is crappy?!? LOL! Most manufactures make deals with tire companies to equip their cars. This in no way means that the OEM tire is any good. In fact many OEM tires are pure crap. Goodyear Eagles are not top rated tires...not even close. They are expensive but they don't stack up to less expensive tires for handling, wear, noise and overall quality. LOL! Waste your money, I won't waste mine. :icon_razz:

If you buy tires just for the BRAND name then you are paying way too much for your tires. It is a known fact that less expensive tires are every bit as good and in many many cases much better. Your money must grow on trees but when it comes to selecting tires you have no clue. You think because a tire is less expensive then it is crappy?!? LOL! Most manufactures make deals with tire companies to equip their cars. This in no way means that the OEM tire is any good. In fact many OEM tires are pure crap. Goodyear Eagles are not top rated tires...not even close. They are expensive but they don't stack up to less expensive tires for handling, wear, noise and overall quality. LOL! Waste your money, I won't waste mine. :icon_razz:

Just curios, DkGry1, what tire set up are you currently running with??

There's a huge difference between "cheap" and "less expensive". I paid what I did because I don't know tires. All the information I had from reviews and what people posted on this forum. If you can get less expensive tires of quality, more power to you. My comments were nearly to suggest that paying 30k + for a performance car and then complaining that you have to pay more than $100/tire is ridiculous. Also wanted to point out that of the things you splurge on with your performance vehicle, the only feature that actually touches the ground, should probably not be one to be skimped on.


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Just curios, DkGry1, what tire set up are you currently running with??

I have the OEM Michelin Pilot HX tires. I only have 1900 miles on my car but when the time comes to get new tires it won't be these! They are rated 22nd out of about 30 different tires that are available for my car. Check out www.tirerack.com (http://www.tirerack.com) for all the information that you ever wanted to know about tires and how they compare to each other. You will be enlightened.

There's a huge difference between "cheap" and "less expensive". I paid what I did because I don't know tires. All the information I had from reviews and what people posted on this forum. If you can get less expensive tires of quality, more power to you. My comments were nearly to suggest that paying 30k + for a performance car and then complaining that you have to pay more than $100/tire is ridiculous. Also wanted to point out that of the things you splurge on with your performance vehicle, the only feature that actually touches the ground, should probably not be one to be skimped on.


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The last thing anyone should do is skimp on the tires for their car. But they need to be informed of what tires are available and how they compare to what they had on their car. All of this information is available at the www.tirerack.com (http://www.tirerack.com) . You can see all the tires that are available and see what real consumers think of them and also see test results from the experts. The tires you have on your car are also rated at number 22. The Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110 was rated number 10 and was less money. It is a Y rated tire the same as the Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar tire. The Y rating is 186 mph. Where are you going to drive 186 mph anyway? Don't assume that OEM tires are ever the best for your car. Always do your research before you buy. You will usually save money and find a better quality tire that last longer and has better handling and noise reduction.
No, I don't work for Tire Rack, I mentioned them because they have one of the most informative sites anywhere for tires.
Have a great day. :icon7:

While the Firestones are not the best, they arent the worst either. It ahs nothing to do with money, I think they are a decet overall tire.


As for my tread wear in the rear, if I has some front end issues that were taken care of, why would the rears look like that, but the fronts look to be wearing evenly. The steering comes from the front?

While the Firestones are not the best, they arent the worst either. It ahs nothing to do with money, I think they are a decet overall tire.


As for my tread wear in the rear, if I has some front end issues that were taken care of, why would the rears look like that, but the fronts look to be wearing evenly. The steering comes from the front?

Your rear camber is out of alignment causing the rear tires to wear on the inside of the tire. Check this out: HOW TO READ TIRE WEAR (http://www.procarcare.com/includes/content/resourcecenter/encyclopedia/ch25/25readtirewear.html)

First, yes these tires need to be replaced and the car needs to have a 4 wheel alignment (the only way to align a vehicle with 4 wheel independent suspension).

There is a lot of science and R&D put into many brands of tires. Other brands, not so much. There are expensive very good tires and expensive and not so good tires. Not too many, if any, low cost good tires. There are lower price tires that will certainly get the job done but there are trade-offs.

If you purchase a super handling tire then it will not wear long – it is not suppose to. If you purchase a super long wearing tire then typically if will not handle as well – it simply can’t.

Reviews on tirerack.com, discounttire.com., etc. are virtually useless. These reviews are not provided by professional drivers with years of experience. The reviews are from people like you and me. And speaking for me, I am not a tire expert. Now, tirerack.com does have professional reviews but only on a limited number of tires tested on a very limited vehicle type.

A few years ago Bridgestone purchased Firestone. Shortly the R&D and focus was placed on the Bridgestone brand and Firestone became the budget brand with some of the technology of the Bridgestone but not all. Same with Michelin and BF Goodrich. Michelin purchased BFG and Michelin stayed the premier brand and BFG is their budget brand. Continental purchased General. Again, Continental is the halo brand while General is not. I could go on with the Asian brands and the dozens of tires built by the name brands but sold under other brand names. These lack the technology and advances in compounds found in the name brands.

You want and expect a new tire to start out round and balances well thus delivering a smooth comfortable ride (depending on the type of tire, you could add quietness to the mix) but that is not the mark of an excellent tire. The mark of an excellent tire is one that will still be round, will still balance perfectly, and depending on the tire type, will still be quiet (performance tires will typically not be quiet due to techniques used in the tread patterns) miles from now. Lesser tires more often start out not being round or quickly get there. They are difficult to balance or to keep in balance. The compounds become hard resulting in handling going away and ride harshness and they get noisy. Some lesser tires actually wear well – maybe too well for you want to get rid of them because they are so bad but since there is a lot of tread left you hate to.

As has been said many, many times before, the only thing between your car and the road is four relatively small patches of compounds surrounding or sandwiching other materials. Make sure these compounds and materials are worth trusting your life, as well as the lives of you family members, to.

First, yes these tires need to be replaced and the car needs to have a 4 wheel alignment (the only way to align a vehicle with 4 wheel independent suspension).

There is a lot of science and R&D put into many brands of tires. Other brands, not so much. There are expensive very good tires and expensive and not so good tires. Not too many, if any, low cost good tires. There are lower price tires that will certainly get the job done but there are trade-offs.

If you purchase a super handling tire then it will not wear long – it is not suppose to. If you purchase a super long wearing tire then typically if will not handle as well – it simply can’t.

Reviews on tirerack.com, discounttire.com., etc. are virtually useless. These reviews are not provided by professional drivers with years of experience. The reviews are from people like you and me. And speaking for me, I am not a tire expert. Now, tirerack.com does have professional reviews but only on a limited number of tires tested on a very limited vehicle type.

A few years ago Bridgestone purchased Firestone. Shortly the R&D and focus was placed on the Bridgestone brand and Firestone became the budget brand with some of the technology of the Bridgestone but not all. Same with Michelin and BF Goodrich. Michelin purchased BFG and Michelin stayed the premier brand and BFG is their budget brand. Continental purchased General. Again, Continental is the halo brand while General is not. I could go on with the Asian brands and the dozens of tires built by the name brands but sold under other brand names. These lack the technology and advances in compounds found in the name brands.

You want and expect a new tire to start out round and balances well thus delivering a smooth comfortable ride (depending on the type of tire, you could add quietness to the mix) but that is not the mark of an excellent tire. The mark of an excellent tire is one that will still be round, will still balance perfectly, and depending on the tire type, will still be quiet (performance tires will typically not be quiet due to techniques used in the tread patterns) miles from now. Lesser tires more often start out not being round or quickly get there. They are difficult to balance or to keep in balance. The compounds become hard resulting in handling going away and ride harshness and they get noisy. Some lesser tires actually wear well – maybe too well for you want to get rid of them because they are so bad but since there is a lot of tread left you hate to.

As has been said many, many times before, the only thing between your car and the road is four relatively small patches of compounds surrounding or sandwiching other materials. Make sure these compounds and materials are worth trusting your life, as well as the lives of you family members, to.

I evaluate all tire information as well as where it comes from and make an educated purchase. The tire rack has excellent information about every aspect of a tire as well as test track information. They also provide a customer feedback section too. If you are wise then you would use ALL this information to make your decision on a tire purchase. You also take in consideration your driving habits and where you live into the mix.

The OP here definitely needs an alignment or his tires will fail just like the originals did.