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It is not just about the numbers, for me a lot of the reason I opted to buy a used 2010 SRT8 instead of a new 2012 R/T for about the same price were all those little SRT8 benefits (better brakes, great sounding stock exhaust, etc), as a guy with a bad back the seats would have sealed the deal by themselves, not saying the R/T seats are bad, but the SRT seats are in a league of their own.
On a related note, I went to Lone Star Modern Mopar festival a couple of months ago, and it seemed all the R/T owners were talking about which SRT8 take off parts they had put on their R/T's (suspension, exhaust, wheels, brakes, etc.) at which point I have to ask myself, if they wanted an SRT8 why not buy one already assembled. Now sure mine is not a 392, but the 6.1 still has 425HP from the factory a while back I found myself at over 120mph and still accelerating while passing a slow moving truck I had been stuck behind for miles on a 2 lane highway, which when you sit back and think about it should really be fast enough.

Or lets put it another way from the factory it will do 0-60 in under 5 seconds, the 1/4 mile in 12.? and has a top speed of over 175 mph, try to name any car in the world that cost under $100,000 that could do that 10 or 15 years ago.

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It is not just about the numbers, for me a lot of the reason I opted to buy a used 2010 SRT8 instead of a new 2012 R/T for about the same price were all those little SRT8 benefits (better brakes, great sounding stock exhaust, etc), as a guy with a bad back the seats would have sealed the deal by themselves, not saying the R/T seats are bad, but the SRT seats are in a league of their own.
On a related note, I went to Lone Star Modern Mopar festival a couple of months ago, and it seemed all the R/T owners were talking about which SRT8 take off parts they had put on their R/T's (suspension, exhaust, wheels, brakes, etc.) at which point I have to ask myself, if they wanted an SRT8 why not buy one already assembled. Now sure mine is not a 392, but the 6.1 still has 425HP from the factory a while back I found myself at over 120mph and still accelerating while passing a slow moving truck I had been stuck behind for miles on a 2 lane highway, which when you sit back and think about it should really be fast enough.

Or lets put it another way from the factory it will do 0-60 in under 5 seconds, the 1/4 mile in 12.? and has a top speed of over 175 mph, try to name any car in the world that cost under $100,000 that could do that 10 or 15 years ago.
I can, 1998-2002 Trans-Am WS6, High 12 second cars from the factory, with full bolt ons they will eat an SRT alive, LOW 12's for next to nothing. H/C it's deep into the 11's easy. Not to mention how cheap they are to mod.

As for the R/T vs SRT debacle. I like the R/T because of it's heritage really. I could care less about the brakes and interior stuff (I don't need nav, leather, heated seats.. etc) I've already got an Eibach suspension so.. I'm missing the 100+ horses. I'd much rather drop a 426 into a lighter base R/T and make it a sleeper.
That's just me though, and I'm younger, I can see someone older caring more about the nicer features of the SRT.

Not bashing the SRT at all, they are awesome cars, are they the aforementioned "chariots of the gods" (got a good chuckle out of that) well I guess that depends on personal preference, to me no, they are not.

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Interesting. Not sure what "younger" is to you but I feel I'm on the younger side too. I was 32 when I bought my srt8. I wanted the extras. The leather, nav, keyless go, etc... To each their own

And boy did I love those WS-6 cars back in the day. Almost bought one. Wish I did!

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I can, 1998-2002 Trans-Am WS6, High 12 second cars from the factory, with full bolt ons they will eat an SRT alive, LOW 12's for next to nothing. H/C it's deep into the 11's easy. Not to mention how cheap they are to mod.

As for the R/T vs SRT debacle. I like the R/T because of it's heritage really. I could care less about the brakes and interior stuff (I don't need nav, leather, heated seats.. etc) I've already got an Eibach suspension so.. I'm missing the 100+ horses. I'd much rather drop a 426 into a lighter base R/T and make it a sleeper.
That's just me though, and I'm younger, I can see someone older caring more about the nicer features of the SRT.

Not bashing the SRT at all, they are awesome cars, are they the aforementioned "chariots of the gods" (got a good chuckle out of that) well I guess that depends on personal preference, to me no, they are not.

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Interesting. Not sure what "younger" is to you but I feel I'm on the younger side too. I was 32 when I bought my srt8. I wanted the extras. The leather, nav, keyless go, etc... To each their own

And boy did I love those WS-6 cars back in the day. Almost bought one. Wish I did!
Well I'm 20 and a college student lol, so it's kinda easy to live with the bare bones base, I mean I can survive off of ramen and water. Not saying the leather and upgrades aren't nice by any means, just for me not worth the price increase. Again for ME, some people would totally say that the price is worth it, and if is to them then that's great.

I mean if I had the cash I'd take a 392 and put R/T badges on it and make it a sleeper, with a blown 426 BUT... maybe after I graduate and get my internship/residency done.

Oh those WS6's are quick, the LS1 is a hell of an engine, came underrated by GM, with full bolt ons (you can get a full cat back for $300, L/T's for around the same, don't ya wish it we're like that for us? ) you can make 370whp and run around a 12 flat.
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You should watch his comparison to his vette and a new vette. He says he had made many upgrades to get the car where he thought it should be-- brakes, suspension,tires and wheels, headlight covers to make it aero dynamic. He also replaced the seats ,steering wheel and many performance mods!!! to the engine. I can see his point to get my SRT to handle and perform like I wanted it to I bought a SRT decal for the windshield and a mopar key chain!!! Every one buys what they want for there needs I don't understand why he doesn't compare the muscle car to the true sports car on a 1500 mile road trip with your belongings for vacation. How sweet would his luggage look tied to the roof of his sports car.Can we have a fund raiser to help me drive safe with the proper sunglasses?

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Having owned R/T, 2010 SRT and now 2012 SRT Challengers, I always found myself wanting a little bit more.

With the R/T, it was just a little more top end power, suspension and brakes. Then, moving to the 2010 SRT, it had great top end but lacked low end power. I did a cam/heads change and the top end was brutal, but regular daily driving and low end still suffered. Finally, I moved to the 2012 SRT. After collectively putting just under 90,000mi between the 3 Challengers in the past 3 1/2 years, the 392 is the right balance for this car. The addition of the adjustable suspension gives you the precision of driving on rails in turns yet the flexibility to be comfortable while cruising long distances. The SRT brakes or even if they did StopTech upgrades like the new Viper are not an option but a necessity for this car.

I remember when I saw the 2006 concept car and I was considering a 2005 Mustang. I told myself that I would wait because the Challenger was a reincarnation of what I viewed as American Muscle. As the 2008 models rolled out, I knew I'd have to wait until 2009 due to my job. I spent over a year envisioning what it would be like cruising the US highways in a Torred Challenger and making runs up and down Route 66. I imagined stopping at every stop along the way and shooting the breeze with other commuters.

See, in the end, this car was not just about performance numbers, magazine comparisons vs the competition, 1/4mi runs or the G force specs in turns. It was about finding a very capable, balanced muscle car that could invoke that nostalgic feeling. After driving both modern day Camaro SS, ZL1 and Mustang, it is a feeling that those other cars can't reproduce.

The takeaway of these videos is that the Challenger belongs on the open road. It can perform at the track but the reality is that most of the time will be spent driving in town, on open highways and long cruises. It's meant to satiate that need to just get out and drive for no other reason but to hear some tunes and the rumble of the engine. That's what these videos are trying to point out.






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firstly, Matt Farah is awsome
secondly, whats wrong with his aviators?

I didnt watch the video as im at work and have no sound but this guy is used to driving all the exotics. But I can see where a guy coming from the cars hes used to driving and getting into an SRT8 would have some problems.

I wouldnt worry to much about what someone has to say about a car you own, you won't please everyone.

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Challenger SRT8's don't handle.. they are worthless. They certainly can't place like 12th place out of hundreds of sports cars, muscle cars and exotics in the Virginia City Hill Climbs...And it would never happen with a bone stock, off the show room floor Automatic either....


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Matt Farah is about as good as it gets when it comes to qualified car critics, so all the nay-sayers claiming that they'll hire anyone to make these videos can piss off. He's a better and more experienced driver than anyone on this forum I dare say. Coming from a Challenger owner and a huge challenger fan, I thought his review was perfectly honest and true. I love my car, it goes real fast in a straight line but can't quite keep up in the slaloms like a BMW or even a mustang. BUT mine is a daily driver that has plenty of room for groceries and gets 20mpg, while being super roomy and comfortable inside for my 6'3 self. Is this not exactly what he stated in the review?

This guy has driven every collectible six figure car on the planet. Frankly I'm honored that he had so many nice things to say about my car, because I'm used to him complaining about the Ferrari he just done driving across the country.

Also yeah, the sunglasses thing was obviously a paid advertisement, they gotta make money somehow right?
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