First, hello to everyone, I'm a newbie on the forum.
Second, I'm a bit surprised to be here. I grew up in a Ford family, drove many of them myself, and can't believe I'm considering a Challenger SRT8.
This is like consorting with the enemy...
But it's a darn fine car.
So, here's what I'm wondering. I really, really like the '13 with the 6-speed. But...
I know there's some speculation about the '14 model. I've seen some of the spy shots of the black car with the bra hiding the front. From what I understand, it could be a styling revision for the Challenger. Or it could be that they're testing for the upcoming Barracuda and the Challenger is a mule, who knows?
I've also seen some of Chrysler's recent corporate advertising: All of their cars are featured except the Challenger. At least I didn't see one, even in the back.
Which makes me wonder what's in store for '14. Or if there will be a '14.
If '14 brings some updates to the interior (higher resolution nav or materials upgrades, or stuff like that), perhaps it'd be worth waiting. On the other hand, I think the current Challenger styling is just about perfect. And can't see how they'd spend any more money on the powertrain for '14, so I'm assuming that'd stay the same for next year.
The other consideration is, I'd like one fully loaded with the 730n, etc., and stripe delete in white, which seems to be somewhat difficult to find, at least so far. So if I'm going with a '13, I'd like to make that decision early enough so I can order one if necessary.
Well, at this point it is anyone's guess really. Typically Chrysler will show a product 6 months before it is set to be built and rumor is they will show the Challenger at the New York or Chicago Auto Show. So, you should know pretty soon what the '14 will be.
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From what I can tell the 13 models are simply a "bridge" to whatever is coming next. If it turns out you don't like the 14/15 model there will be plenty of 13's around. The 13's are out and there are still lots of new 12's looking for buyers so I wouldn't stress about not being able to get a car. I think (speculation) we should have a better idea of what the next gen looks like around April (?) or so as the big car shows roll out new models and concepts.
For example: I have an 010. The expert opinions in here have been back and forth about the new 8spd tranny coming to the Challenger. I honestly don't know so it's a wait and see for me. If it does, and if it has an accompanying increase in gas mileage, then I'm definitley looking at a trade in.
Oh, and FWIW I'm waiting to see what the new Mustang will look like - and as a lifetime MOPAR guy that's an odd turn of events so you're not alone in looking at what the "other guys" are doing.
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I could be totally wrong about all of this but IMO the next total car revision will be 2014 with the shorter wheelbase, design, electronics, revised interior etc. They'll let that play out and then release the 2015 SRT 'Cuda to compete with the all new Mustang. They're not going to have a SRT Challenger and 'Cuda at the same time, doesn't make business sense. The 392 will be the standard engine in the R/T (I'd like to see it in the 1500/2500 Ram too) and the 6.2 will be the new SRT engine, possibly over the entire range. That's how I'd do it anyway....
Personally, I'd wait and see what's just a few months around the corner. If the 2014 comes out with styling revisions you don't care for, there will still be PLENTY of 2013's out there to choose from. Production will start on the 2014's in June, so expect an announcement in March-ish. Now, can you bear to wait that long??
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At the earliest I'd be considering the purchase in Spring anyway, so no immediate rush to buy.
If the car changed to something with a shorter wheelbase/new styling that competes with the Mustang, I'd definitely buy a next generation Mustang instead. The current Mustang's styling is a bit lumpy and unresolved in my opinion, and enough of the solid rear axle already.
I like the bigger size and look of the current Challenger SRT8, and don't think I want or need more power (but no less, either), unless it's naturally aspirated. Buying more for what it is now and to enjoy that, rather than to compete with anything, really.
The only thing I wish it had is something like the Cervanis hood/shaker hood scoop. For me, that's the only thing missing (which I know I could add myself). The Mopar lowering springs would be a nice addition, though, which I would make.
Personally, I can't imagine how the Challenger would coexist with the Barracuda. As I understand it, Challenger sales aren't that good now anyway. And not being really up on Chrysler, I'm not sure what's happening with its platform. I assume it's still being used under the 300...but what's set to happen with that model? Both have been around for quite a while, haven't they?
Dunno, I suspect this or '14 might be the last year for an individual Challenger, unless it's badge engineered to share components with the Barracuda.
I think this current car will become one of those which car magazines drive 20 years from now and appreciate. It's really the swan song of current American energy policy/CAFE standards and the relatively cheap energy and good economy which we may not be seeing again for some time to come, if ever in the case of the former.
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