Start in 2nd?(M6)

[WyGoSlw]

Originally Posted by Yellow Jacket 2012

It's your car so do as you wish, just save money to buy the next clutch. You are shortening the life of the disc.

What he said..

Originally Posted by Yahooligan

Real world doesn't agree. Those same calculators say I can do 87MPH in 3rd with my 6-speed, 3.92 rear, and 5800rpm redline. Real world, right about 80mph is redline in 3rd. Knowing that, and with the 392's redline of 6250RPM, top speed in 1st should be closer to 40-42 MPH.

Anyone that doesn't think starting in 2nd is harder on the clutch should try starting from a stop on flat ground in 2nd gear with no throttle input and see how much you have to slip the clutch before you're able to fully let off the clutch pedal and not stall. Doing this in 1st gear is a piece of cake. Starting out in 2nd with throttle input generates much more heat and wear on the clutch than starting out in 1st.

But...it's your car and your clutch. Do whatever you want, worst case you're out $1000+ for a new clutch sooner rather than later.

What he said too..

[wings67]

Originally Posted by BEIST

I have always driven mine like a 3 speed using 2nd, 3rd, and 4th.

Same here, except maybe if I'm going at a crawl in a parking lot. 2nd gear in this car is like gear 1.5 . It's very close to first. And for me, engaging the clutch in 2nd gear doesn't fell that diffferent than 1st. I've gotten so used to it now.

So if that means I'll have to replace the clutch at 150,000 miles instead of 170,000 miles, well, I can live with that, if I still have the car by then lol

[aarcuda]

Originally Posted by rscarawa

Ok. Care to back that statement up with number?

no. there is no number. just feel. And I FEEL like i slip the clutch JUST AS MUCH taking off in 2nd on flat ground as I do in first. its momentary. short. very quick. not much at all. as much as i do in 1st. I hope that helps

[JS23V0B]

Originally Posted by Yahooligan

Real world doesn't agree. Those same calculators say I can do 87MPH in 3rd with my 6-speed, 3.92 rear, and 5800rpm redline. Real world, right about 80mph is redline in 3rd. Knowing that, and with the 392's redline of 6250RPM, top speed in 1st should be closer to 40-42 MPH.

Working the math is more reliable than whatever the tach and speedo may be reading at a glance, both lag actual RPM and MPH. No slip in a manual gearbox, and the tires don't grow.

@ 6250 RPM

1st gear 46 MPH
2nd gear 65 MPH

Probably does read 42 MPH at the shift, but the car is going 46 MPH @ 6250 RPM unless the clutch is slipping.

[Yahooligan]

Originally Posted by JS23V0B

Working the math is more reliable than whatever the tach and speedo may be reading at a glance, both lag actual RPM and MPH. No slip in a manual gearbox, and the tires don't grow.

@ 6250 RPM

1st gear 46 MPH
2nd gear 65 MPH

Probably does read 42 MPH at the shift, but the car is going 46 MPH @ 6250 RPM unless the clutch is slipping.

Wasn't a glance nor lag, I know my car and it's nowhere near the speed the calculators show at redline. My speedo is dead on with GPS speed.

There's also no way there's THAT much lag with the speedo.

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