Took my newly B&G tuned 392 to the track - Page 8 - Dodge Challenger Forum: Challenger & SRT8 Forums
Dodge Challenger Forum Dodge Challenger Forum
 

» Featured Product
» Auto Insurance

» Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   Dodge Challenger Forum: Challenger & SRT8 Forums > Model Specific Discussion > Dodge Challenger SRT8 Specific > 6.4L / 392ci (2011 - ?)

ChallengerTalk.com is the premier Dodge Challenger Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #71 (permalink)  
Old 11-24-2012, 06:12 PM
Toxic11's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Greensburg, PA
Posts: 4,905
Photos: (0)
Thanks: 65
Thanked 661 Times in 428 Posts
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
Send a message via ICQ to Toxic11 Send a message via AIM to Toxic11
Originally Posted by Heminator View Post
Anyone running DRs on a 392 M6 should have DSS 1400 axles and a Hop Not kit.
Absolutely concur! Anything else and it's gonna be KABOOM!
__________________
Brett DiMichele

2011 Toxic Orange


©2011-2029 A Sparkly Moose Beaver Production

www.toxic11.com
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #72 (permalink)  
Old 11-25-2012, 05:19 AM
Heminator's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,138
Photos: (0)
Thanks: 18
Thanked 53 Times in 34 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Originally Posted by Kakdiesel1 View Post
Didnt want this to be power trip posts but, from my limited experience this car feels like it can run 12's all day WO a tune. Yes I have an Auto and maybe this is Apples to Oranges and Turbines do not compare to NAEngines. I would love to meet someone with a 392 Manual and a tune and settle this in a friendly way. We can even switch cars. Im sure we can all be friends, we all have Hemi's of course.
Talk is Talk everyone agrees. The DA in Jersey right now is -800 today and on average so, this car should run in the low 12's im getting from some of you?
There is really nothing to settle. This is nothing more than a case of you being unaware that the M6 392 consistently runs 0.5 seconds slower than an A5 392. Yes a bone stock A5 392 will generally run 12s all day regardless of the weather. In poor DA expect 12.8x and in great DA expect 12.3x. Most times fall somewhere in between - like you experienced. And Litos is correct - in negative DA your times should have been better than 12.5x, which indicates you have some room for improvement in the launch technique.

The M6 is a PITA to launch properly - either it bogs or blows off the tires along with major wheel hop. A perfect launch means slipping the clutch at 4500 RPM to get the car moving without bog or wheel hop. Even then it will lag behind the A5 about 2 tenths to 60'. And every time the M6 is shifted it loses a tenth when zero power is applied to the rear wheels when the clutch is depressed. All things considered, the M6 is typically a low 13 second car, with high 12s being a hero pass. A tuned M6 with all the usual bolt-ons and DRs and a willingness to bust the halfshafts will eke out a 12.4x pass, which is about what a bone stock A5 will do.

M6 owners know all of this - now you do too. We selected that tranny option for the fun factor on the street and the nostalgia of rowing your own gears in one of the last true muscle cars. If I wanted a drag strip queen I would have bought an A5 - it is undeniably the far quicker car in a straight line and also generates much less stress on the drivetrain.
__________________
2011 SRT8 392 IE #88 DWB: M6, 430N, Group II, Mopar Appearance Package
  • B&G 93 PCM tune
  • Airaid CAI
  • Speedlogix '392' catch can
  • Modern Muscle 85 mm TB
  • Jet 180 stat
  • Hurst w/ G&K throw-rod
  • Corsa Xtreme
  • Hop Not I & II
  • REM front strut brace
  • REM rear arched strut brace
  • REM rear tension arms
  • Petty's safety loop
  • MirrorTap - Escort 9500ix
  • Speedlogix parking brake pedal cover
  • Mopar gas cap cover
  • BFG g-Force Sport Comp-2 (275/40 & 245/45)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The Following User Says Thank You to Heminator For This Useful Post:
JDGA80 (11-29-2012)
  #73 (permalink)  
Old 12-15-2012, 07:32 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 151
Photos: (0)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Shot peeened?

Originally Posted by Heminator View Post
Which is why the GT500 has a live rear axle and parts which can withstand a direct mortar hit. And also why the ZL1 (while still a IRS) has a massively upgraded diff and half shafts.

The diff failure surprised me - the SRT is shot peened for 2011+ for extra strength. The busted half-shafts didn't surprise me at all - and are the reason I won't mount DRs on my car. Anyone running DRs on a 392 M6 should have DSS 1400 axles and a Hop Not kit.
I have been trying to understand the part number change 11+ for the 226 Getrag LSD ( example the 3.06 11+ number is 68085306AA) perhaps this being "shot peened" explains it. Where did you get this information and what ohter changes were made to account for the part number change?
__________________


2008 SRT8 Hemi Orange Pearl, Auto, SRTMax cam, Inertia Performance 6.1L Heads, Inertia ported intake, BBK 85MM TB, Magnaflow Hi Flow Mids & cat back, 226mm Getrag LSD 3.06 upgrade, DSS 1000HP axles, Hurst AutoStick, Cervini's Shaker.
Tuned by the master... Johan, @AfterhoursMoparPerformance... I got AMP'd
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #74 (permalink)  
Old 12-16-2012, 07:26 AM
Heminator's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,138
Photos: (0)
Thanks: 18
Thanked 53 Times in 34 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Originally Posted by fastfranky View Post
I have been trying to understand the part number change 11+ for the 226 Getrag LSD ( example the 3.06 11+ number is 68085306AA) perhaps this being "shot peened" explains it. Where did you get this information and what ohter changes were made to account for the part number change?
The shot peen upgrade was mentioned by numerous auto-mags and also SRT engineers when the 392 debuted. I do not know what other changes were made to the diff.

This C&D write-up came straight from an interview with Tom McCarthy SRT Challenger Chief Engineer. The shot-peen upgrade is mentioned.

2011 Dodge Challenger SRT8 392 First Drive: Dodge Challenger Review – Car and Driver
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #75 (permalink)  
Old 06-07-2013, 09:39 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: El Paso Texas
Posts: 578
Photos: (0)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 117 Times in 96 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Funny Story!

Trust me when I tell you "everyone's done this" the first time on a track is something you do not want to relive for the rest of your life, I'm surprised that you told the truth and nothing but the truth. Really funny stuff however, the more you visit the track that better you get!

No one starts out like a pro! If anyone tells you that they picked it up on their first trip well, they are full of crapola!

David

I will never tell the story of my first visit to the track on my new 1970 SS 396 Chevelle (without posi-track)
that I thought I would run in the 12's I will never speak of it!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #76 (permalink)  
Old 06-08-2013, 03:59 PM
S8ER01Z's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 210
Photos: (0)
Thanks: 18
Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I owned an auto before this car and to be honest it was cake... 1995 z28 LT1 and went 14.1 @ 97 on my very first pass. Not much to it though... as someone else said.. I put my foot to the floor and steered it down the track. With a manual I have 500+ passes and still can't reproduce good results every time.
__________________
2001 Z28 M6 (LS6 Cam, BBK LTs, FRA/Lid, 1LE Springs)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #77 (permalink)  
Old 06-09-2013, 01:32 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
Posts: 802
Photos: (0)
Thanks: 73
Thanked 97 Times in 72 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Originally Posted by S8ER01Z View Post
I owned an auto before this car and to be honest it was cake... 1995 z28 LT1 and went 14.1 @ 97 on my very first pass. Not much to it though... as someone else said.. I put my foot to the floor and steered it down the track. With a manual I have 500+ passes and still can't reproduce good results every time.
Isn't that the truth. I had about 70 passes last year and and 20+ this year. Consistency is not my middle name which
makes it hard bracket racing. I usually have a decent reaction time but my 60 foot time and 1/8th time in a 1/4 is all over the place. Interesting usually trap within 2mph. No idea if that means anything or not except that I suspect I have several issues.
__________________
2010 Challenger R/T bought Oct. 2009 sold Dec 31, 2010
2010 Challenger SRT bought Dec. 31, 2010 sold Oct. 2013
2012 Challenger SRT bought Jan. 31, 2014
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #78 (permalink)  
Old 06-09-2013, 02:29 AM
RoostKing's Avatar
Lifetime Premium Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 5,259
Photos: (0)
Thanks: 1,396
Thanked 625 Times in 391 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Are you guys lifting when shifting?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #79 (permalink)  
Old 06-09-2013, 08:38 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 1,461
Photos: (0)
Thanks: 127
Thanked 261 Times in 200 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I've only been out to the track twice so far with my 6M, but yeah I can relate to the variability. I definitely have more good runs than bad though. 2.1 is a good 60 foot for me. When I shift I wait until I see tach needle hit 6k, then I shift and you can hear the rpms spike to 6k+. I don't lift the throttle at all really, makes for a nice bark when you get into the next gear I have never hit any kind of rev limiter and my rpms have had to hit about 6500, do we have one?
__________________
'12 Challenger SRT8 Pitch Black 6-speed, stripe delete, all options
-BT catch can, skip shift eliminator, Mopar intake, Hurst/Mopar short throw pistol grip, BB's resonater delete, Jet 180 t-stat, ceramic tint/clear bra/C-Quartz
13.56@104.38 DA 7170 - that's 12.33@114.45 corrected!!!

Last edited by EricG; 06-09-2013 at 08:39 AM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #80 (permalink)  
Old 06-09-2013, 08:45 PM
S8ER01Z's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 210
Photos: (0)
Thanks: 18
Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Originally Posted by RoostKing View Post
Are you guys lifting when shifting?
When I made a pass in RBs car I definitely didn't lift. You could tell the computer was holding it back though... No lift shifts in my car are violent and 'parts breaking'.. Felt soft and smooth in the 392. Though I understand a B&G tune changes that.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Dodge Challenger Forum: Challenger & SRT8 Forums > Model Specific Discussion > Dodge Challenger SRT8 Specific > 6.4L / 392ci (2011 - ?)

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Dodge Challenger Forum: Challenger & SRT8 Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8 ResumeSpeed 6.4L / 392ci (2011 - ?) 36 11-28-2012 03:44 AM
SRT LLC, TTi, and B&G to Create Hot 392 Tune Red Barron Vendor Deals 23 08-31-2012 09:38 PM
B&G Ordered for 2011 392 with the A5 SparkChicken 6.4L / 392ci (2011 - ?) 89 07-28-2012 08:27 PM
Touge.ca #13: July 21st Saturday Cayuga TMP track event, 5 - 9pm! 20+ Events 2012!! Touge.ca Canada 0 07-19-2012 10:54 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:22 PM.



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.