My Quest for 1,000rwhp!

[Challenger370]

Where then there you go, why does anyone not like a big block?

[mokeman3]

Originally Posted by Challenger370

I dont understand why everyone wants to tune a smalblock, or the smallest lightest thing they can get. I do understand less weight needs less power to yeald the same performance, but when more cubic displacement more than outputs enough hp extra to compensate why use a small engine? If high power race cars was the ultimate formula, then why does drag racers use 512/540/572 big blocks? Any of those 3000,5000,7000 hp engines built from a 318, 305, 289? I dont think so. Show me a 700hp 289, and Ill ask for the same design from a 572 and my car will be faster.

The only downside to the big block is fuel echonomy.

You know, I used to think like this too (big block) ...
In my younger hot rod years, all I used to do is walk around saying "pound for pound, there is no replacement for cubic inch displacement". I grew up with 440's, and GM/Pontiac 455's, 455 HO's, and even got to see/ride in a SD-455 (talk about wood!).

But then all of this HiDef Speed Channel stuff took it's toll on me...
All this Euro, F1 (Formula-1) stuff got me interested to see what all the hype was, so I started to research why/how a 3, or 4 litre motor can make 900 HP. Then I was enlightened. New math, - go figger ....

MM3

[DCX Depot-Tim C]

In the 80s, F1 engines were making 900++ HP with sub 2liter engines.--WOW.

[Dudeiwin86]

Originally Posted by DCX Depot-Tim C

In the 80s, F1 engines were making 900++ HP with sub 2liter engines.--WOW.

but in the 80's they still allowed forced induction too didnt they?
18,000 rpms + forced induction

[PWR_Andy]

Heads are assembled and ready to be installed.

[mokeman3]

Originally Posted by Dudeiwin86

but in the 80's they still allowed forced induction too didnt they?
18,000 rpms + forced induction

Actually, they were allowed 19,000 RPM, - the reduction to 18,000 is a relatively new rule.

Funny, us old-school guys, and american muscle cars in general are all into blowers and looking for max boost pressures etc., but the F1-ers are all looking for higher RPM's. I think the F1-ers formula is the correct one after tons of reading I did on how/why an F1 motor is built the way that it is.

That might be neat to see a 18,000 RPM mini Hemi. Seems in F1, the pistons are more "happy" when they are flipping around at the speed of light, but get unhappy real quick when they get caught in a wind storm in when a high-pressure system moves in.

And nice heads. Pictures are wonderful, - seems you are on top of your game with the camera work (something near and dear to my heart).

So what is that grey coating ?

MM3

EDIT: Forgot to include this link (turn up the volume):

YouTube - F1 Music

[fltinstructor]

mokeman3 sometimes you are a riot! That was funny.

[PWR_Andy]

Originally Posted by mokeman3

Actually, they were allowed 19,000 RPM, - the reduction to 18,000 is a relatively new rule.

Funny, us old-school guys, and american muscle cars in general are all into blowers and looking for max boost pressures etc., but the F1-ers are all looking for higher RPM's. I think the F1-ers formula is the correct one after tons of reading I did on how/why an F1 motor is built the way that it is.

That might be neat to see a 18,000 RPM mini Hemi. Seems in F1, the pistons are more "happy" when they are flipping around at the speed of light, but get unhappy real quick when they get caught in a wind storm in when a high-pressure system moves in.

And nice heads. Pictures are wonderful, - seems you are on top of your game with the camera work (something near and dear to my heart).

So what is that grey coating ?

MM3

EDIT: Forgot to include this link (turn up the volume):

YouTube - F1 Music

Thats an awesome video.

As for the pics, I use a 12 mp camera and use the Macro setting allot. Sometimes I play around with lighting, but not too often.

The coating is called CT-22 by Calico. It is a thermal block ceramic coating to help prevent hot spots from forming in the cylinder heads which can lead to detonation.

[mokeman3]

Originally Posted by fltinstructor

mokeman3 sometimes you are a riot!

Well of course ...
That's the sound of "Happy pistons" ! (there're singing for us)


MM3

[Dudeiwin86]

that is awesome.