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STS turbos were tuned over and over again when people tried to put them on the SRT 10 ram pickups. Most ran strong for a very short time until blowing up. It is just not the setup for the V10 enigine. It might work fine on another engine.
I have seen several cars in my area that are running the procharger line of super chargers. All of them run very strong and have been running for a long time. I have been to their website and they are planning on making one for the challenger. They already have one out for the srt 8 charger. They even give you an engine warranty with them if you buy the whole kit. Has anyone with a charger tried one of these yet? How do they run with it on? I think this is a great setup for performance.
yeh prochargers are great if you want a supercharger, but i'd rather have a turbo
STS turbos were tuned over and over again when people tried to put them on the SRT 10 ram pickups. Most ran strong for a very short time until blowing up. It is just not the setup for the V10 enigine. It might work fine on another engine.
I have seen several cars in my area that are running the procharger line of super chargers. All of them run very strong and have been running for a long time. I have been to their website and they are planning on making one for the challenger. They already have one out for the srt 8 charger. They even give you an engine warranty with them if you buy the whole kit. Has anyone with a charger tried one of these yet? How do they run with it on? I think this is a great setup for performance.
Vortech is the kit out with a warranty. i just got mine installed on my SRT8 300C. just got it back yesterday. so far i like it.
but as for the turbos. boost is boost. your engine doesnt know the difference. the kicker is in the fuel set up, and the tuning. at the moment, all we have for tunning, is the predator. which can work very well, if you get a good tuner to do it. but if your FI kit, comes with a crappy fuel set up. then your engine is destined to fail. these engines are known to be allergic to any form of detonation.
this is the reason all the early GSM S/C cars blew up. because they had NO tuning back then. they just threw on an extra fuel injector before the throttle body. and hoped for the best.
i imagine this is a similar story to the SRT-10 trucks that cratered.
Vortech is the kit out with a warranty. i just got mine installed on my SRT8 300C. just got it back yesterday. so far i like it.
but as for the turbos. boost is boost. your engine doesnt know the difference. the kicker is in the fuel set up, and the tuning. at the moment, all we have for tunning, is the predator. which can work very well, if you get a good tuner to do it. but if your FI kit, comes with a crappy fuel set up. then your engine is destined to fail. these engines are known to be allergic to any form of detonation.
this is the reason all the early GSM S/C cars blew up. because they had NO tuning back then. they just threw on an extra fuel injector before the throttle body. and hoped for the best.
i imagine this is a similar story to the SRT-10 trucks that cratered.
thats what i imagine happened with the unsuccessful stories. i love how the srt-10 guys are saying "you have to pair up the turbos with the right motor". no you don't, just set it up correctly with sufficient fuel mods and a CUSTOM TUNE (no canned tunes or homemade amateur tunes) and you'll be fine, considering your engine hasn't been beaten into the ground.
thats what i imagine happened with the unsuccessful stories. i love how the srt-10 guys are saying "you have to pair up the turbos with the right motor". no you don't, just set it up correctly with sufficient fuel mods and a CUSTOM TUNE (no canned tunes or homemade amateur tunes) and you'll be fine, considering your engine hasn't been beaten into the ground.
-Chris
ditto. but i would have to say, 2-67mm turbos on an SRT is a bit ridiculous. unless you are running a fully built engine and plan to run 20-30 pounds of boost. plus you would lag like a bastard. you dont need that.
a couple of small turbos would be quite sufficient.
Thanks for posting Chris, I saw this vid once before but didn't know it was a STS system that I also want when I get my Challenger.
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ditto. but i would have to say, 2-67mm turbos on an SRT is a bit ridiculous. unless you are running a fully built engine and plan to run 20-30 pounds of boost. plus you would lag like a bastard. you dont need that.
a couple of small turbos would be quite sufficient.
yeah, to tell you the truth i'd be happy with 1 67mm.
A guy I knew at another forum had this system installed on his 2008 SRT8 for SEMA. His car was the first. I haven't heard if he has had any problems in the past year but it's not for me.
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you couldnt pay me to put a turbo on a stock motor without using a standalone to tune it.
it can be done, but... its not smart.
these are not a GM car.
we do not have a MAF sensor.
you cannot control part throttle bost.
turbo is so much UNLIKE a supercharger on these cars because boost has more to do with LOAD than RPM.
you can scale for a blower with RPM, but not a turbo.
again, i wish you the best, but i would consider a forged motor and a standalone tuning system to actually make a turbo worthwhile on this POS dodge programming
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STS and CIS have had rear mount turbo kits for the LX body for years.... only a few hav erun them, many have blown up
you couldnt pay me to put a turbo on a stock motor without using a standalone to tune it.
it can be done, but... its not smart.
these are not a GM car.
we do not have a MAF sensor.
you cannot control part throttle bost.
turbo is so much UNLIKE a supercharger on these cars because boost has more to do with LOAD than RPM.
you can scale for a blower with RPM, but not a turbo.
again, i wish you the best, but i would consider a forged motor and a standalone tuning system to actually make a turbo worthwhile on this POS dodge programming
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STS and CIS have had rear mount turbo kits for the LX body for years.... only a few hav erun them, many have blown up
Yeah I made this post about a year ago and since then I've changed my mind about the turbo setup. I'll probably end up going with a Procharger when the time comes.
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