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Originally Posted by whylee View Post
I will have to see what Techco tells me monday, when I talked to them last week they said they had the tuning ready for the 5.7, thats the reason I went with them.
If its not ready like they said, I may cancel my order. I do not like it when I am lied to.
I can assure you that 09 tuning isnt out yet. Lisa at BMC is the only one with an 09 and a tune and thats because Diablosport is using her car to test everything.
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how does the stock SRT autostick transmission cope with numbers like that, or is this kit for the 6spd guys?

I'd love to have power like that !!
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Re: Whipple Superchargers now Shipping!

Originally Posted by fullmonte View Post
how does the stock SRT autostick transmission cope with numbers like that, or is this kit for the 6spd guys?

I'd love to have power like that !!
This kit was designed on an auto 300c. The 6-speed and the auto will both be fine with this power level.
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Re: Whipple Superchargers now Shipping!

Originally Posted by rmfootball69 View Post
Yeah guess you are right, i was looking at crank numbers guess i just wasnt really paying attention too much haha.

"For 6.1L (SRT8) vehicles. Chrysler 300C, Dodge Magnum and Charger. Increases HP from 425 to 540*, torque from 420 to 500*. All kits include V-3 (self-lubricated) supercharger."
Beware of looking at peak numbers...


A twinscrew will have much better average power than a centri blower. We see it a lot on the mustang side. Some guy will dyno "650rwhp" with a T-trim vortech, then get his ass stomped by a 580hp/580tq Whipple or KB car, because the Twinscrew (Whipple) makes instant full boost from the hit of the throttle. Obviously there are fast centri cars out there, but they usually have to either run a big converter or big gears to get them up in the power band quickly.

With this kit, your power band is everywhere. Full boost from idle to redline
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Re: Whipple Superchargers now Shipping!

Originally Posted by tampa03cobra View Post
Beware of looking at peak numbers...


A twinscrew will have much better average power than a centri blower. We see it a lot on the mustang side. Some guy will dyno "650rwhp" with a T-trim vortech, then get his ass stomped by a 580hp/580tq Whipple or KB car, because the Twinscrew (Whipple) makes instant full boost from the hit of the throttle. Obviously there are fast centri cars out there, but they usually have to either run a big converter or big gears to get them up in the power band quickly.

With this kit, your power band is everywhere. Full boost from idle to redline
Could not have said it better myself.
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Originally Posted by tampa03cobra View Post
Beware of looking at peak numbers...


A twinscrew will have much better average power than a centri blower. We see it a lot on the mustang side. Some guy will dyno "650rwhp" with a T-trim vortech, then get his ass stomped by a 580hp/580tq Whipple or KB car, because the Twinscrew (Whipple) makes instant full boost from the hit of the throttle. Obviously there are fast centri cars out there, but they usually have to either run a big converter or big gears to get them up in the power band quickly.

With this kit, your power band is everywhere. Full boost from idle to redline
Ain't that the truth!
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Originally Posted by PPPTech View Post
I can assure you that 09 tuning isnt out yet. Lisa at BMC is the only one with an 09 and a tune and thats because Diablosport is using her car to test everything.
Do you have the tuning for this supercharger kit for the 2009 SRT8 six speed? Any authorized installers located in Utah?
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Re: Whipple Superchargers now Shipping!

No one has tuning for the 09 challengers. Once Diablosport releases the tuning, we will all have it. The kit is ready to go for the Challengers, we just need the ok from Diablosport on the tuning. We have this system going on an 08 chally in the next 2 weeks along with a 426 stroker. Shooting for 600rwhp.
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Re: Whipple Superchargers now Shipping!

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No one has tuning for the 09 challengers. Once Diablosport releases the tuning, we will all have it. The kit is ready to go for the Challengers, we just need the ok from Diablosport on the tuning. We have this system going on an 08 chally in the next 2 weeks along with a 426 stroker. Shooting for 600rwhp.
I'm curious about the high pitched whine from the Whipple Supercharger. I installed a SQ (super quite) Vortec supercharger on my 2005 GT Mustang. After reviewing a few sound clips from other superchargers available for the Challenger, I'm spoiled with the "super quite" sound of the Vortec SQ supercharger on my Mustang.

I noticed yesterday that the Techno and the SRT supercharger systems for the new Challenger are identical, other than badging.

Which supercharger system is the most quite and yet gets the desired horsepower and torque curves. Is the Whipple supercharger more quite than other systems. I continue to here rumors that Dodge will offer a supercharger option for 2010. What supercharger system will Dodge most likely offer on the 2010 Challenger?
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We have to remember that normally aspirated (NA) engines tend to have a few challengers, or limitations, under boost. I'm not saying that you can't make some nice power with a bolt-on blower, but you just won't see HUGE power until you make some physical changes to the motor.

1. High compression. NA motors tend to have higher compression, compared to what you would pick for big boost. Detonation is one of the biggest enemies of the internal combustion engine, and high static compression plus the added heat of boost tends to REALLY increase combustion chamber temps, leading to dangerous detonation. Now, this can be partially helped by smart intercooling (to lower temp), plus i suspect that the wonderful shape & efficiency of our beloved hemi motors may tend to avoid "hot spots" that plague other head designs. But the simple fact is that the 10.3 (?) static compression ratio of the 6.1 Liter Hemi is not really blower-friendly.

2. Strength. NA motors with cast rods & pistons have a strength limit, and it takes strength to make power. Our 6.1 Hemis have forged crankshafts but cast pistons & rods

3. Camshaft overlap. Overlap helps scavenge the cylinders in NA motors, but is not required in blown motors ... where the intake charge is pressurized to "explode" into the cylinders. So cams with moderate-to-large overlap, which may be friendly for NA motors, is not the best choice for boost applications.

4. Tuned, or restrictive, exhaust. Tuning the exhaust system can also help scavenge NA motors, but boosted applications tend to favor the biggest, most open exhaust system possible.

These are just a few reasons off the top of my head why simply bolting a blower onto a motor designed for NA use ... even with good injector & timing tuning ... has to be done cautiously, and will have real limits on how much power you can make.

Having said all that, the sight, sound & power of blown Hemi under the hood of a new Challenger makes me all gushy inside

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