Deceptive Marketing: Harmon Kardon 900 Watt Stereo System - Page 34 - Dodge Challenger Forum: Challenger & SRT8 Forums
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
#331 (permalink) Old 12-06-2012, 11:40 PM
Senior Member
 
STINGRAY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,022
Thanks: 59
Thanked 24 Times in 20 Posts
Garage
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricG View Post
I would never buy flowmasters.

I do have Blastion' Bob straight pipes in place of the exhaust resonaters, and yes I can definitely hear the stereo over them. This HK system pounds when you turn it up over half way...
STINGRAY is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
#332 (permalink) Old 12-07-2012, 12:14 AM
Senior Member
 
WCKSRT8YJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Benicia / San Jose, California
Posts: 357
Thanks: 49
Thanked 35 Times in 14 Posts
Garage
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via Yahoo to WCKSRT8YJ
Don't think stereo system is as bad as some people say, I'm happy with mine.



392 Hemi, 6 spd, HK stereo, 730 Nav

2002 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
LS1, 6 spd, Ram Air, 22,000 mi

1970 AMC AMX, 2 seater
390 ci, 4 spd, Ram Air, 3.54 posi
WCKSRT8YJ is offline  
#333 (permalink) Old 12-09-2012, 12:29 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 254
Thanks: 1
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
(Thread Starter)
Quote:
Originally Posted by WCKSRT8YJ View Post
Don't think stereo system is as bad as some people say, I'm happy with mine.
That is great. Maybe there is some variability in the quality. Either way, the sound reproduction is off. Certain frequencies and even instruments seem non-existent at times. For example, take a favorite song that has been reproduced and heard on multiple radios, headphones, etc and then listen to it on the HK system. On mine, and many others, it sounds much worse and totally different.

I've even run distortion tests and at 10% distortion, it sounds the same as 0%. Look at my videos. A stock GM system in a $20K car is worlds better than the HK system.
thesrt8 is offline  
#334 (permalink) Old 12-09-2012, 01:33 PM
Lifetime Premium Member
 
MoparOhio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 3,898
Thanks: 5
Thanked 309 Times in 230 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by TampaBay_2012RT+ View Post
You are absolutely correct!

Sirius called me last week (again) asking me to renew my subscription (they have snail mailed, emailed, and called several times).

I keep telling them that I have No Interest in renewing because of the over compression of their signals. She did not understand what I was saying and said "We are always adding more content" I told her that is exactly the problem. You can only squeeze so many stations into limited bandwidth and that means that you must sacrifice audio quality by compressing it every time you add more channels).

SiriusXM quality rating of music audio falls somewhere between AM and FM to me. Not Acceptable to my ears.

(If you have experience with MP3's you can easily tell the difference between 128bps and 320bps audio files or better yet MP3 and Flac* <-*not playable on these head units).

You can play overly compressed signals on a $20K system (Audio or Video) and it is not going to make it sound great.

Throwing money into a more powerful system for your home or car will not fix SiriusXM's issues...Like they used to say "You can polish a turd all you want, but in the end it is still a turd."

The answer: SiriusXM needs to spend money on an upgraded SAT Transponder with more bandwidth such as Dish & Direct TV did to carry the new HDTV signals.

It is a shame that SAT companies such as SiriusXM overly compress their audio signals and think that everyone will accept it as a good option for music. All that profit that they rake in, they should spend some to improve quality for their customers. Until they do that SiriusXM isn't a good option if you are wanting to listen to music. Now if Talk Radio is your style then you probably will not mind the severe signal compression.

The shame is that I really want to like SiriusXM, but as far as their music quality is concerned, I can not bring myself to enjoy it at any price.
I would have to disagree with you on this topic. The reason is that my wifes Beetle has the Monsoon stereo and her XM/Sirius sounds better than FM in her car. It isn't satellite vs FM.. it is the RECEIVER. In my Challenger I have the 6 speaker system.. FM sounds better than any other car stereo i have ever had... but Satellie is weak and tinny sounding. It isn't Sirius... it is the receiver.

TorRed SE Model purchased: 2/05/09 (gone but not forgotten)
TorRed R/T Classic ordered: 4/06/13
R/T Classic born on: 6/04/13
R/T Classic delivered on: 6/21/13
Mods installed:
Mopar CAI
RiderGraphix spoiler graphic
Skip-to-shift eliminator
Cursive Challenger on grille
Engine Cover air brush painted
Billet under the hood stuff
MOPAR door sills

Member of Frederick Scat Pack
MoparOhio is offline  
#335 (permalink) Old 12-09-2012, 06:15 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 101
Thanks: 1
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
This system confuses the heck out of me. I've only used Sirius and my iPhone 5 via USB to date and it consistently sounds terrible. And any volume setting under 25 is lame as well. Shocking, as the HK system in my better half's MINI Cooper (iPhone and Sirius) sounds pretty amazing.

Fast forward to today: for giggles, I converted 2 dozen songs in iTunes on my Mac to MP3, and burned them to CD as "MP3 Disc".

Popped the disc into the car and when it started playing, my ears almost blew out as the volume was at the usual 25. I was totally shocked. AND the sound quality was AMAZING... I thought I was in a different car. I copied the whole disc to the HD and they still sound AMAZING. Flip to the iPhone via USB, same songs, CRAP. Flip to Sirius, have to boost the volume back up and CRAP.

I'm at a total loss. Of course I'm still frustrated as all heck that I can't get the system to recognize any USB drive.

Last edited by jmatero; 12-09-2012 at 06:19 PM.
jmatero is offline  
#336 (permalink) Old 12-10-2012, 01:00 AM
Member
 
dachrist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Powell River BC Canada
Posts: 72
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I've found that if I put 320kbs MP3 songs on a USB stick, they sound amazing in the car. However if I then copy the same songs to the HD, they sound like crap! Almost like when they are put on the HD they are reduced to 128kb or something like that. The treble is very "warbly" (like super compressed) and the midrange is very muddy.

2012 Challenger SRT8 392
6 Speed
Grey Stripes
Skip Shift Eliminator
Backup Camera
BT Catch Can
Zoomers Exhaust
dachrist is offline  
#337 (permalink) Old 12-10-2012, 11:47 AM
Senior Member
 
LarryR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 330
Thanks: 181
Thanked 23 Times in 16 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I mentioned this a few posts ago but it's worth mentioning again......the issue could also be the playback device.......i.e. Itouch/Ipod. I've had to use an EQ program on my iTouch to get it sounding decent when going directly into the Aux input of the stock stereo in my Toyota.


82d Airborne (1974-1994)
2013 SRT8 6-speed
Phantom Black Tri-coat Pearl
Black Vapor Chrome Wheels
Hurst short shifter
Web Electric sequential turn signals
Corsa Extreme Catback
Arrington Performance Carbon Fiber CAI
Arrington Performance Catch Can
LarryR is offline  
#338 (permalink) Old 12-12-2012, 12:39 AM
Senior Member
 
TampaBay_2012RT+'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Manatee County Florida
Posts: 109
Thanks: 43
Thanked 18 Times in 12 Posts
Garage
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I have not copied any of them over to the HDD on the Mygig 430N RHB in my wifes 2012 Challenger SXT...i did not try it yet in my 730N but I can confirm that the .M4A Format works and sounds excellent from my USB Stick in the 430N RHB.

M4A music is as close to CD sound quality as you are going to get and I just did a quick test of a song I downloaded a few minutes ago and it is Revolution from the Beatles White Album in .m4a...The Clarity is awesome for the same size as an MP3 and virtually lossless.

I will test sometime later on a HDD Transfer to see if I lose any of the clarity on the M4A Format.

Nemo Me Impune Lacessit


TampaBay_2012RT+ is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to TampaBay_2012RT+ For This Useful Post:
LarryR (12-12-2012)
#339 (permalink) Old 12-12-2012, 11:17 PM
Senior Member
 
db_ohno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 260
Thanks: 4
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I have installed Sirius units made by almost every aftermarket manufacturer under the sun, including some factory units. Every one of them sounds the same-----over compressed and tinny. Funny thing though, almost every XM unit I put in (when they were a separate company) sounded a million times better.........


Last edited by db_ohno; 12-12-2012 at 11:30 PM.
db_ohno is offline  
#340 (permalink) Old 01-03-2013, 12:02 PM
Senior Member
 
Madcoder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,358
Thanks: 537
Thanked 189 Times in 124 Posts
Garage
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I see what this thread is all about now.

I just picked up my 12 SRT with the HK option and it's not impressive in the slightest.

I tweaked the EQ and tried both sound modes and it's about the same as my 09 SRT system.

Waste of $2k
Madcoder is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Dodge Challenger Forum: Challenger & SRT8 Forums > General, Performance, and Technical > General Challenger Discussion > Challenger Issues & Problems

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Dodge Challenger Forum: Challenger & SRT8 Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The 730n Harmon Kardon (HK)- My Opinion HighVoltage General Challenger Discussion 22 10-28-2013 03:47 AM
Anyone enhance there Harmon Kardon System cppower General Challenger Discussion 14 09-17-2013 10:37 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome