Timing chain failure on the Dodge Challenger

[Hemi09Challenger R/T]

Originally Posted by rdockery_3

All this has got me worried. I've got a little over 70,000 miles on mine and now I'm thinking about going ahead and replacing my timing chain. The one from MOPAR is only $30, would I be better off to get a different brand though if these are breaking?

I wouldn't just replace the chain as it's only failing when something else fails. Like the tensioner or ? who knows!

[Yahooligan]

Originally Posted by rdockery_3

All this has got me worried. I've got a little over 70,000 miles on mine and now I'm thinking about going ahead and replacing my timing chain. The one from MOPAR is only $30, would I be better off to get a different brand though if these are breaking?

With 70,000 miles and a 6-speed manual you should be fine. AFAIK, this has only been happening to autos and relatively early on, like 30k-40k. I don't think I've seen anyone post up that this happened with their 6-speed manual.

$30 for the part, have you priced labor yet?

[rdockery_3]

Originally Posted by Yahooligan

With 70,000 miles and a 6-speed manual you should be fine. AFAIK, this has only been happening to autos and relatively early on, like 30k-40k. I don't think I've seen anyone post up that this happened with their 6-speed manual.

$30 for the part, have you priced labor yet?

No I haven't priced the labor, I know it would be expensive. So is it basically just a problem with MDS motors?

[stevewhiteparts]

Originally Posted by mjb4450

Luke, any insight/guess as to why the OP would have this happen repeatedly? Would seem to me something else is going on there. He's on his third engine!

i think the cause wasnt resolved, they may have fixed the result, but not the cause

you could have anything from a damage block, maybe a poor casting, where the angles are incorrect, poor workmanship......

we have a problem on late 2009 and 2010 3.5L v6 making a valve noise, what we have found is the bore for the camshaft is off center causing the cam to walk and eat up the casting, in most case we replace the cam and the cylinder head, initialy we were just replacing the rocker arm for broken rockers, but that wasnt the cause, but a result

Luke

ps on the second event, we would have replace the short block or a long block, also would have got the field service engineer involved

[ptgarcia]

Originally Posted by Hemi09Challenger R/T

Thats funny they have had 7 engine (timing chain) failures (2 were mine) at 2 different dealerships in my area over the past 8 months. Maybe your blind to the problem or they are not reporting these accurately. I ran a car fax on my own car to see what the dealership reports it doesn't show replaced engine, its shows replaced heads or service. No sign of 2 engines replaced. Thats inaccurate. It is happening all over! It sounds like they are covering up a problem by not reporting it correctly. That's also in my lawsuit against them. Will see who prevails.
Oh by the way, I only respond to this forum and not on any others

If your engine has gone through two timing chains then I highly doubt the chain is the root cause. Your engine has another problem that results in premature timing chain failure.

[mister x]

Anything approaching 20 timing chains per WEEK indicates a problem as far as I am concerned. I don't give a rat's azz about percentages!! Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining!

[stevewhiteparts]

Originally Posted by Hemi09Challenger R/T

Thats funny they have had 7 engine (timing chain) failures (2 were mine) at 2 different dealerships in my area over the past 8 months. Maybe your blind to the problem or they are not reporting these accurately. I ran a car fax on my own car to see what the dealership reports it doesn't show replaced engine, its shows replaced heads or service. No sign of 2 engines replaced. Thats inaccurate. It is happening all over! It sounds like they are covering up a problem by not reporting it correctly. That's also in my lawsuit against them. Will see who prevails.
Oh by the way, I only respond to this forum and not on any others

more power to you, please win!!!!

im sorry you had mutiple failures, and I agree Chrysler should buy the car back, hell if I was the manager involve the engine would have been replace as an assembly, when you know the right people and you are a super dsa dealer those things happen very fast....

please understand some dealers have very poor warranty track record, hence they can not do anything without begging for authorization

we have recently assisted two customer with issues with Wranglers, got one a 5k trade assist and got the other bought back,

some vehicles are going to be pos, its a fact, it happens......when i was service manager in a Mercedes Benz dealer we use to call the 140 chassis the chassis from hell......110k vehicle....

I think the 2nd failure was poor workmanship or the wrong repair was performed, sometime replacing components isnt the right thing to do, sometime the assembly is the wise choice

dont know, wasnt there all speculation

however at this point, the right call to the right person, a service manager that know the right people and makes the right phone calls and the vehicle becomes a buy back, you have a new one and life is cherry again....

more times than none, the service management can influence the outcome......significantly, especially if the management team has a great relationship with the factory

Luke

ps
in 6 years I have been here, we have replaced 4, 5.7L hemis, 3 in the same police car, Chrysler quietly told the police department involve to give the officer a non Chrysler product cause they were not going to warranty another vehicle driven by that officer, this same officer also destroyed 2 Chargers jumping the cars, he thought he was Rosco imitating Bo Duke......

[stevewhiteparts]

have read similar write ups on at least 3 forums......bet i can find a bunch more if i really care to look

Luke

[StoneCold]

Has anyone contacted the NHTSA about their issues? Just read something about them opening an investigation last suimmer regarding the 5.0 Mustang transmission issues after only 32 complaints. Don't know anything about the outcome or detailed history of the issue... just sayin'. Sounds like they may consider this a serious issue..especially if someone were to merge on to a freeway and the car shuts off with trucks running up on your a$$.

[BAT]

My timing chain just broke today at 53500 miles, 65 mph. Dealer is calling Chrysler to get permission to disassemble to look for other damage. They told me they would have a loaner available in the morning.