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Old 09-28-2012, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mjb4450 View Post
Plus, I still have concerns about the manuals failing but that it will just take longer than the autos.
Yeap....same here.

That's why I keep "hanging around" here, waiting (and hoping) for the "ultimate fix"; an indestructable kick-ass stronger-than-damn-hell timing chain I can just toss in myself and not have to deal with any "dealership".

I hate my local Chrysler dealership. I don't want them touching my car unless absolutely necessary.

Last weekend I took my car out for a 400 mile round-trip weekend drive. I'd forgotten just how much fun this car actually is, and how other people practically ka-splooge all over themselves when they see it. I think about ten people told me "nice car" (or equivalent).

Please Jesus don't bust my timing chain.
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:06 PM
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As posted earlier in this thread, these do not fit the '09+ Hemi engines.

So, this is not an option

What the difference between the 09's and later Hemis that these double roller timing chains won't work? Curious.
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:14 PM
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I thought srt8 did not have MDS?\
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Originally Posted by Sdave View Post
What the difference between the 09's and later Hemis that these double roller timing chains won't work? Curious.
VVT was added, and a different chain/tensioner were designed and used. The old style chains and aftermarket chains cannot be used due to a clearance problem.
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The one I saw had some spacers that provided additional clearence so it would fit. Didn't look at it closely though. Not sure what year models it fit. Though I suspect it was for the earlier year models I will find the mag and check to be sure. If it does fit the 09's and later I will post back here what I find. It would seem logical to me at least that a double roller would be the fix for the issue of the stock timing chain failure.
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Originally Posted by rscarawa View Post
I thought srt8 did not have MDS?\

They got stupider and put them in for 2011 or 12 not sure which. I'm not a SRT guy but it still amazes me that they screwed them over with MDS after they already pay a gas guzzler fine. I mean what's the point? They obviously don't know much about their base SRT buyers. No tune is more proof of that.
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They got stupider and put them in for 2011 or 12 not sure which. I'm not a SRT guy but it still amazes me that they screwed them over with MDS after they already pay a gas guzzler fine. I mean what's the point? They obviously don't know much about their base SRT buyers. No tune is more proof of that.

I would expect that all models Dodge makes will have MDS from now on. Don't be surprised if the new Barracuda has MDS on all models. It probably has to do with the CAFE 54mpg mandate that Obama put forth that starts to take effect in 2017.

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Originally Posted by mjb4450 View Post
They got stupider and put them in for 2011 or 12 not sure which. I'm not a SRT guy but it still amazes me that they screwed them over with MDS after they already pay a gas guzzler fine. I mean what's the point? They obviously don't know much about their base SRT buyers. No tune is more proof of that.
Silly man!

You Americans should quit driving those big sedans with big v8s and get used to little cars with 4 cylinder turbos/Fiat

3.0 litres for the MFW!!!!
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Silly man!
You Americans should quit driving those big sedans with big v8s and get used to little cars with 4 cylinder turbos/Fiat
3.0 litres for the MFW!!!!

Fiat can have my V8 when they pry that Hurst shifter from my cold dead fingers!

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Last Update from my post starting at page 111:

The damage stopped at the heads no other damage was done to the bottom end, so I'm thrilled about that. MY TOTAL cost out of pocket was $5500.00. Sigh!

Optional Reading: Not saying this is what anyone should do or am I in no way promoting any other brands at all. I still love the size, style and character of the Challenger, however when I drove the 100 miles to pick up my car needless to say It didn't make it home. I continued to drive to Grapevine, Tx. and traded it in on a Dark Gray 5.0. After driving it home I can say I am 100% over the Challenger. I am very pleased with the mustang and I won't say anymore to avoid sounding like a troll. :-)

I wish all auto/mds Challenger owners out there the best of luck, and yes If I was just someone reading this thinking it could possibly happen to me I would of disabled mds. At least till more information surfaces. I really think the combined minds on this forum has narrowed down the problem. Also no matter what, even if you go in for an easy oil change. take off any program if you have one on there. :-)

I enjoyed the maturity of those on this forum. This group is one of the more mature groups of car enthusiasts and usually without major egos. As for myself I guess I'll be back to Stangnet or Allfordmustangs a little more. I will be peaking in from time to time because I'm an enthusiast myself and not brand loyal. I like reading most car forums out of curiosity, even go to camaro5. Maybe cause I owned multiple Mustangs, Camaro's and Firebirds. I will stay subscribed to this post in hope to see a fix. Hopefully it comes as easy as a computer flash.
P.S. I really hope Dodge makes good and does a recall on whatever the problem truly is when they narrow it down but I do have a lil feeling they already know.
Once again sorry for the long windedness, that's just me. :-)
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