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Well, My parents owned a GM car with a 2.0l motor in it in the 80's. FAR more of those motors blew up and they were never recalled.

How about Ford 3.8L motors? Any recall there?
I'll answer your question with a question ... Did you call NHTSA about it at the time??? Hmmm, I thought NOT.

Engine's don't fail because you sit on your butt and whine about it on the computer. Before your next whinning post, instead try calling NHTSA (National Hwyway Traffic Safety Admisstration) first and registering your complaint. Then post what they say.

NHTSA ... 202-366-0123 They are in Washington, DC.
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Almost every 4cyl engine sold today uses a timing belt. The recommended replacement interval is 60K to 70K.

There are exceptions, some do use a chain, but very few. I only deal with American V-8's an can't comment on 4 cyl chain failures, but you raise a point. A four cylinder is just that, a 4 cylinder. Taking a V-8 and making it a 4 cylinder is a whole nother matter. Crankshaft throws are positoned every 180 degrees on a 4, every 90 on a V-8, hence the smoothness of said V-8. 4 cylinder engines incorporate a balance shaft or shafts to smooth out harmonic vibrations associated with the "notchiness" related to the rod throw configuration. of All modern 4 cylinders are a double overhead cam configuration, while the 5.7 Hemi is a single "in the block" camshaft. I could go on but I think you get my point..
Excellent points! Here's where I muddy the water a bit. If you look at my SIG below you will see that I also own (OMG !) an Illinois built DSM , AWD 4 cylinder 2.0L Turbo Eclipse that flat-out makes you see what a 4 cylinder that is designed right (the 4G63 that is) can do! One of the first things everyone does is REMOVE the balance shaft and replace it with the kit. Nobody, and I mean nobody has ever complained about any problems related to that. I can tell you from "First hand" experience that the difference in vibration is imperceptible. Maybe the geometry of the 4G63 is a lot different in all other ways but.....it's a 4 cylinder and those crank throws are at 180 so that is common to all other 4 cylinders. It's a fun car (BTW.....it's so close to DWB it's not funny) but it's NOT a Challenger! This timing chain thing is interesting though........I hope it doesn't happen to me but that is the MAIN REASON I don't modify my R/T Automatic. 09 with Lifetime guarantee.


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Thanks for the info, but are you going to tell us if you were driving down the highway and MDS was activated when it failed?
No failures yet, the customers want to R&R the timing sets before a problem happens.

In my case, highway, 70mph, cruise on.... MDS active. 60K on the car when it went. I had an older post somewhere giving a better timeline.
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I am the original owner. I did not have the cruise on, on my automatic challenger. The car just gave out on the highway at 65-60 mph. They said I abused my car on my third trip to the dealership. I told them "No Way". My paid off car has been at the dealership for 7 days. I don't have a loaner. I hope they honor my lifetime warranty. That was a great selling point when I bought the car. I hope it was not a lie.
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Hello fellow Challenger owners! I have a 2009 Dodge R/t Challenger.. It had 150 mile on it when I got it ..now it has 65,000 miles on it. I was driving on the highway 65MPH and "Pop goes to weasel" The engine died.. Towed the vehicle to dealer and at first they told me the engine was gone and I caused the engine damage by driving the car while it was over heating.. So after I said, "NO WAY!" The say I have to pay $350.00 for them to take the engine apart! I agreen because i am not no sucker...Then after they do that.. they say.. The timing chain broke and it cost $2,500.00 to fix it.. I have the lifetime powertrain warranty and they trying to tell me.. It is not covered.. Are you freaking kidding me?.. I am going back up there to day so they can see the warranty information.. This should not be happening at no 65,000 miles and mostly highway miles.. I dont race the car just drive to and from work.. I am one angry customer. I can't believe the engine is gone and then they want to rebuild it.. wish me luck.... Has anyone had trouble with the warranty covering this?
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...try calling NHTSA (National Hwyway Traffic Safety Admisstration) first and registering your complaint. Then post what they say.

NHTSA ... 202-366-0123 They are in Washington, DC.
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I am the original owner. I did not have the cruise on, on my automatic challenger. The car just gave out on the highway at 65-60 mph. They said I abused my car on my third trip to the dealership. I told them "No Way". My paid off car has been at the dealership for 7 days. I don't have a loaner. I hope they honor my lifetime warranty. That was a great selling point when I bought the car. I hope it was not a lie.
Do you have the Track Pack? And good luck with the repair. They should honor the warranty...

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What is the Track Pack? Thanks for the reply!
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