Originally Posted by Hemi09Challenger R/T
before you pass judgment on the percentage of failure being so low, remember theses car 2009,2010,2011,2012 car are still very new. Most of these engine failures are happening after 30,xxx plus miles. Most of these cars don't even have close the milage as the ones reporting engine failure.
Also, on the police car issue, has anyone actually torn down one of those engines to see if they use the same chain setup as a regular r/t has? (general public)?
And also Luke, just curious as why you are standing behind Dodge so much on these issues? Getting paid to say these things? And where are you getting your facts from? According to my dealer my engines (2) replaced so far are showing they just replace the heads on one and the other shows reprogrammed the computer. So if they aren't reporting the real work that is been done no one will ever know the real failure numbers.
i'll be the first to tell you what is right and what is wrong, my dm gets an ear full all the time, i contantly pick on him for what Chrysler does wrong....perfect example in a mtg last week in front of a room of nearly 100 managers, they tried to tell us the back order issues was significantly better at 96% fill rate, i immediatelly cried foul, back order issues are the worst we have ever seen......
timing chain failures, seem no one has heard of any except on 09 thru 10 Challenger with MDS at 30k and on this forum......national demand is nearly non existent, conversations with reps and field service engineers shake their heads, the fleets we speak to on a daily basis say the same thing, one of the largest state trooper garage in NC, has never seen one....and we have replaced all 4 hemi engines they have replaced, 3 in the same car.....im sorry i dont see it.....
in fact im so worried about timing chain failures, i just bought a second Challenger, auto with mds for my lovely wife
i think some people blow things way out of proportion, ok so a few cars have experience a chain failure......the majority of 2009 and 2010 police Chargers have well in excess of 50k, due to budget restraint they are now keeping cars until 150k miles
cooling fans have been the major issue on cop cars......
on the other side of the coin, i think there is a real issue with unusual dents......have seen some complaints and experience a couple,
outside sheet metal of our beloved Challengers amount to not much more than a pepsi can
something i find very dissapointing with the cars