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Old 05-21-2012, 07:16 AM
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All par gives a fairly complete rundown on Charger police pursuit packages including the fact that they cost less than a plane jane RT.Thicker brake rotors,same diameter,overstuffed front seats,an extra inch of foam padding,electrical harness for the extra lights,149mph speed limiter and a doughnut shop finder. The failures were on early model v-6's and 5.7 rt's.I could only confirm a half dozen, searching every forum I could find. Some of you people are paranoid.Ought to let this one die.
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Here's another 2010 Auto R/T with a broken timing chain! Told the dealer as it was towed in that I bet it's the timing chain and he said NOOOO! Five days later I get a call "it's your timing chain". Same issues like everyone else 37k highway speeds then failure. I'm wondering if the warranty pays for renal cars as the dealer said he has no loaner cars. I'm sure it's going to be more than just a replacement of the timing chain. What kind of engine damage has everyone been seeing?
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Old 05-22-2012, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tonysrt View Post
If you think cop car engines are built the same as family car engines I think your mistaken. Cop cars run 24 hours a day and are driven hard. Then how come only street cars are having this problem? If you have seen a cop engine torn down and see the chain to be the same as the regular motor then there has to be another reason for the failures. Today we don't have access to parts manuals or even service manuals anymore. Cop car engines have had beefed up inards such as better bearings forged cranks etc. You think Chrysler wants problems with cop cars? Of course we'll never get Chrysler to admit they take more care in putting a cop motor together a little better.
same engine, absolutelly no difference.......................

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Let's try to get a better idea of what manufacture date is failing.

All you guys with broken timing chains on RT's please let us know the model year, confirm it is an Auto trans and the date of manufacture from the sticker on the driver's side door jamb. Example: Date of manuf: 10/2010.
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Originally Posted by mjb4450 View Post
Anyone know fro certain if the Police fleet vehicles have MDS deleted or not?
no, same as regular engines

they have MDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

have replace 3 in cop cars, very aware of what they have, exact same engine as non police car production......

5.7 & 6.4 have the same chain, starting in 2009

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Year Family Group Illustration Item Qty OENumber
1 2009 DC 009EZC - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZC] Without MDS 2 1 53022
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2 2009 DH 009EZC - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L Without MDS [EZC] 2 1 53022
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3 2009 DS 009EZD - 5.7L HEMI Gas;
Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZD] 2 1 53022
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4 2009 DS 009EZH - 5.7L HEMI Gas;
Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
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5 2009 DX 009EZC - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZC] Without MDS 2 1 53022
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6 2009 HB 009EZD - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZD] 2 1 53022
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7 2009 HB 009EZE - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZE] 2 1 53022
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8 2009 HB 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
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9 2009 HG 009EZD - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZD] 2 1 53022
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10 2009 HG 009EZE - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZE] 2 1 53022
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11 2009 HG 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
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12 2009 LC 009EZC - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZC] Without MDS 2 1 53022
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13 2009 LC 009EZD - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZD] With MDS 2 1 53022
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14 2009 LC 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] With MDS 2 1 53022
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15 2009 LE 009EZD - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZD] 2 1 53022
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16 2009 LE 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
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17 2009 LX 009EZD - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZD] 2 1 53022
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No Model
Year Family Group Illustration Item Qty OENumber
18 2009 LX 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
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19 2009 WH 009EZD - 5.7L HEMI Gas;
Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L With MDS [EZD] 2 1 53022
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20 2009 WH 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L With MDS [EZH] 2 1 53022
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21 2009 WK 009EZD - 5.7L HEMI Gas;
Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZD] 2 1 53022
316AC
22 2009 WK 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
316AC
23 2009 XH 009EZD - 5.7L HEMI Gas;
Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZD] 2 1 53022
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24 2009 XH 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
316AC
25 2009 XK 009EZD - 5.7L HEMI Gas;
Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZD] 2 1 53022
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26 2009 XK 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
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27 2010 DJ 009EZC - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZC] Without MDS 2 1 53022
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28 2010 DS 009EZE - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L HEV [EZE] 4 1 53022
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29 2010 DS 009EZH - 5.7L HEMI Gas;
Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 4 1 53022
316AC
30 2010 DX 009EZC - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZC] Without MDS 2 1 53022
316AC
31 2010 DX 009EZH - 5.7L HEMI Gas;
Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] With MDS 4 1 53022
316AC
32 2010 LC 009EZC - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZC] Without MDS 4 1 53022
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33 2010 LC 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] With MDS 4 1 53022
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34 2010 LE 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 5 1 53022
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No Model
Year Family Group Illustration Item Qty OENumber
35 2010 LX 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 5 1 53022
316AC
36 2010 WH 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
316AC
37 2010 WK 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
316AC
38 2010 XH 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
316AC
39 2010 XK 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 4 1 53022
316AC
40 2011 DD 009EZC - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZC] 4 1 53022
316AC
41 2011 DJ 009EZC - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZC] 4 1 53022
316AC
42 2011 DS 009EZE - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L HEV [EZE] 4 1 53022
316AC
43 2011 DS 009EZH - 5.7L HEMI Gas;
Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 4 1 53022
316AC
44 2011 DX 009EZC - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZC] Without MDS 2 1 53022
316AC
45 2011 DX 009EZH - 5.7L HEMI Gas;
Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] With MDS 4 1 53022
316AC
46 2011 DX 009EZH - 5.7L HEMI Gas;
Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] With MDS 4 1 53022
316AC
47 2011 LC 009ESG - 6.4L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 6.4L [ESG] With MDS 4 1 53022
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48 2011 LC 009ESH - 6.4L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 6.4L [ESH] Without MDS 4 1 53022
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49 2011 LC 009EZC - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZC] Without MDS 4 1 53022
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50 2011 LC 009EZH - 5.7LGas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] With MDS 4 1 53022
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51 2011 LD 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
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No Model
Year Family Group Illustration Item Qty OENumber
52 2011 LX 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
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53 2011 W2 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
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54 2011 WD 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
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55 2011 WK 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
316AC
56 2012 DD 009EZC - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZC] 2 1 53022
316AC
57 2012 DJ 009EZC - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZC] 4 1 53022
316AC
58 2012 DJ 009EZF - 5.7L CNG; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L CNG [EZF] 4 1 53022
316AC
59 2012 DS 009EZH - 5.7L HEMI Gas;
Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 4 1 53022
316AC
60 2012 DX 009EZC - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZC] Without MDS 2 1 53022
316AC
61 2012 DX 009EZH - 5.7L HEMI Gas;
Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] With MDS 4 1 53022
316AC
62 2012 LC 009ESG - 6.4L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 6.4L [ESG] With MDS 4 1 53022
316AC
63 2012 LC 009ESH - 6.4L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 6.4L [ESH] Without MDS 4 1 53022
316AC
64 2012 LC 009EZC - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZC] Without MDS 4 1 53022
316AC
65 2012 LC 009EZH - 5.7LGas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] With MDS 4 1 53022
316AC
66 2012 LD 009ESG - 6.4L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 6.4L [ESG] With MDS 4 1 53022
316AC
67 2012 LD 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
316AC
68 2012 LX 009ESG - 6.4L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 6.4L [ESG] With MDS 4 1 53022
316AC

No Model
Year Family Group Illustration Item Qty OENumber
69 2012 LX 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
316AC
70 2012 WD 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
316AC
71 2012 WK 009ESG - 6.4L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 6.4L [ESG] With MDS 4 1 53022
316AC
72 2012 WK 009EZH - 5.7L Gas; Engine 625 - Timing System 5.7L [EZH] 2 1 53022
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Can we get an administrator or a moderator to make an official timing chain failure thread so that people who have actually had a failure can log their vehicle information (Date of manufacture, model year, model, trim, trans, etc.,) and circumstances behind the failure.

Make it just for logging the failures and not for speculators giving their opinion as to why they think it's failing.

Should be on a sticky too.
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I did a Road Ready (PDI) on a Charger Police with 5.7 Hemi today, and the MDS on it was fully functional. It was deactivated by putting the transmission in Autostick mode.
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Originally Posted by liljoe2276 View Post
What kind of engine damage has everyone been seeing?
Sorry to hear about your failure.

New heads are almost a certainty because the valves got bent, some may have smacked the pistons, and if that's the case, then a whole new engine is in order. However, as the numbers of timing chain failures are increasing now, I have seen many report that the dealer is only replacing the heads and forgoing a new engine unless the valves really put a large dent in the piston top. One gentleman reported having scuffed pistons, got new heads only and now the cars is screwed up. So, once the dealer has your car apart, head over there and inspect the damage. Maybe take some pictures and post them up here. Be sure to check the piston tops to see if there is any damage. If there is, demand a new engine.

No rental car provision in your factory warranty but if you call the warranty hotline and ask. They might provide you with some reimbursement.

Good luck. Report back on your dealer experience, i.e., what you were told, what they replaced, etc.
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