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Hopefully there's a performance wheel guy out there who can answer this question. I'm looking at wheels I like that are only available in 5 x 4.5" configuration. I understand these cars are 5 x 115mm, which calculates out to 5 x 4.527". Will the 5 x 4.5s fit (and work) or is that 27/1000 too much difference?
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Yes the 27/1000 is to much, I used to think the same way, Lug nuts are held in place by friction so if it's not lined up perfect it will work it's self loose, And cause vibrations before that happens.
By the way what wheels are you looking at? Maybe we can find you something very close.
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Yes the 27/1000 is to much, I used to think the same way, Lug nuts are held in place by friction so if it's not lined up perfect it will work it's self loose, And cause vibrations before that happens.
By the way what wheels are you looking at? Maybe we can find you something very close.
That would look good. I would be willing to bet that they will make that bolt pattern soon.
Have you talked to Center line?
Were not direct with them yet but I will try to send them a email and see what they say.
I did call and I had to leave a message. As soon as I here back I will let you know.
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The bolt pattern debate continues. The bolt pattern is 5x115mm or 5x4.5274"
(5x4.50" or 114.3mm will physically bolt on but is not correct and I do not recommend it.)
Wheel studs are made to be stretched and not bent. When you tighten the lug nut, it is forced to bend into the conical seat of the wheel. Without being hub centric, you can easily tighten the wheel off center causing vibration problems.
Stud failure being rare but possible, it is not worth taking the risk for your family.
The bolt pattern debate continues. The bolt pattern is 5x115mm or 5x4.5274"
(5x4.50" or 114.3mm will physically bolt on but is not correct and I do not recommend it.)
Wheel studs are made to be stretched and not bent. When you tighten the lug nut, it is forced to bend into the conical seat of the wheel. Without being hub centric, you can easily tighten the wheel off center causing vibration problems.
Stud failure being rare but possible, it is not worth taking the risk for your family.
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Thanks for the advice, but I actually know all that. Really, I know that 27/1000" runout is too much but I'm just frustrated and venting. I have to wonder what sort of idiot would engineer a bolt pattern within 27/1000" of a long-existing pattern that's already well-supported in the aftermarket. I was just hoping someone might have an off-the-wall answer that actually makes sense.
It's 5 on 115. I tried to go the 5 on 4.5 route with my first Chrysler 300C. We could never get the front end to stop vibrating. Swapped out the wheels for another proper set. Everything was smooth after that.
I see no reason why the same situation wouldn't exist on the Challengers.
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Thanks for the advice, but I actually know all that. Really, I know that 27/1000" runout is too much but I'm just frustrated and venting. I have to wonder what sort of idiot would engineer a bolt pattern within 27/1000" of a long-existing pattern that's already well-supported in the aftermarket. I was just hoping someone might have an off-the-wall answer that actually makes sense.
Because nobody can agree to go all Metric or all English units. As an engineer for an independent firm, it is sometimes a pain dealing with multiple units. We have one customer that work mainly in English units, that is developing a product for a company that uses metric units. The design is metric, the drawings are English and the fasteners are a mix of metric and English (depending on whether or not it interfaces with their customers product)
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