Brampton to build 30,000 cars yearly.

[Ragamuffin]

Originally Posted by Coady

Is this rumored 30K production number just for the US, or is Canada going to be getting its share from that as well. Amd looking at the prices on the net for the Charger, i would not say that SRT8 would be going for less then 45K! I'm just glad that the company I work for get a 3% above cost with the Dodge dealership in my city!!

I believe this 30,000 target # is for total production ~~~Heck.. this kind of sounds pretty darn good to me ; You guys { Les Canadiens , Oh Canada [ oh good grief ] } get an American icon/muscle car made in your own country and then get a real good deal buying one. .. hey what does the cost of gas up there equate to for us Americans ?

[SirDrake]

I agree with AllHemi, it's going to be a $40k car the first production year.
I have been following the Challenger project for the past year and I too would like to own one. I had a '72 Challenger when I was in college.
I spoke with some of the guys at my local Chrysler dealer about the Challenger when I recently brought my Lebaron GTC in for inspection. When I mentioned the Challenger they all kinda grumbled and said they expect it to be a $40k+ car the first year. And they said they would be lucky to get ONE car on the lot! It's really not hard to believe when you look at the price tag on the Charger and knowing this car will be a low production V8 only model. Like most of you, I think this sucks because that knocks me out of the market.
My predictions are this:
First year will produce 30,0000 units @ $40k, V8 only and maybe a choice of both Manual & Auto Trans
Second year as production further slows on the LX line and IF Challenger sells well, DCX may increase production numbers and add a V6 model. Especially if gas prices stay high.
Also, I'm afraid that the Dodge of old is no more. DCX is trying to raise their image and along with that image goes the price tag. I think I read somewhere that a DCX rep said that the Challenger will be priced slightly higher than the Mustang. Look how much a V8 Mustang goes for. Now add about $5k to the price and you have the Challenger.

[raiders8498]

the way I see it makes it less affordable for more people, and thats a good thing. less challengers on the road, if they can afford it dont buy it go buy a hybris, or a 1.8 liter car. if they were to to mass produce like a charger, or chrysler 300 I will not buy one. I dont like seeing hundreds of otions just keep it simple, color, trans, and srt or not. thats all you need. you dont want to see 3.5 liters driving around I know I dont.

[ricekiller]

i hope they dont turn out like mustangs.

[08ChallengerDad]

Originally Posted by SRTOutlaw

The government is'nt gonna crack down on performance vehicles. The insurance companys will, but only with high premiums. For those of us that do buy new challengers, expect to pay HIGH premiums. 3-4000 dallars a yr!

Here in NY, the SRT8 Charger gets you a $2,100.00 "gas guzzler tax" added to the sticker for "poor fuel economy", so the government WILL get a bite here.
As for insurace rates, my wife's Charger R/T only cost a few dollars more a year in insurance premiums, but that's because our trade-in was six years old and had a (much) lower value. We're well into our fourties, so premium hikes based on age and the type pf car will be minimal. What seems to affect the insurance premiums most is the replacement costs/purchase price, and where the vehicle falls on the "most frequently stolen cars" list.

If the Challenger goes for $40K or under (the way I want it optioned), I'll try to get one in the first year. If the dealership tries gouging me, I'll wait until the price falls to "an acceptable range" before I buy.
This is a production car, not a "limited-production car", so I expect it will be handled accordingly by DCX and the dealers. If not, as much as it pains me, I'll look at what the Camaro and Mustang have to offer for my hard earned dollars.
Keep in mind that 30,000 cars a year is in a year, and there will be subsequent years the car is made. I think everyone who can afford the car at MSRP will have a shot at getting one eventually.

[Sigma-6]

Originally Posted by Ragamuffin

I believe this 30,000 target # is for total production ~~~Heck.. this kind of sounds pretty darn good to me ; You guys { Les Canadiens , Oh Canada [ oh good grief ] } get an American icon/muscle car made in your own country and then get a real good deal buying one. .. hey what does the cost of gas up there equate to for us Americans ?

Hey, we can have our BS Nationalism if you can have yours,

As for the cost of gas, most of yours comes from Canada, believe it or not, and believe it or not, we always pay more than you at the pump, often twice as much. . .

Production numbers? There are a lot of Chrysler dealerships in Canada, so you're going to have to add those to your 2800 for the US. It's going to be much less than 10 cars per dealer.

[Ragamuffin]

Originally Posted by Sigma-6

Hey, we can have our BS Nationalism if you can have yours,

As for the cost of gas, most of yours comes from Canada, believe it or not, and believe it or not, we always pay more than you at the pump, often twice as much. . .

Production numbers? There are a lot of Chrysler dealerships in Canada, so you're going to have to add those to your 2800 for the US. It's going to be much less than 10 cars per dealer.

Welcome Sigma-6 [Shot & a Goal ]..Heck yeh ! I've been thinking for months now that a 65,000 allotment might be more likely !! Canadien Oil .I didn't know that , course I don't think we get the whole truth anyway...You guys pay twice what we do and it's your oil..I kind of don't get it !!! !

[MOPAR_MADNESS]

Originally Posted by Ragamuffin

I believe this 30,000 target # is for total production ~~~Heck.. this kind of sounds pretty darn good to me ; You guys { Les Canadiens , Oh Canada [ oh good grief ] } get an American icon/muscle car made in your own country and then get a real good deal buying one. .. hey what does the cost of gas up there equate to for us Americans ?

How can you call it an American Icon/Muscle car when the original was built in Windsor Ontario CANADA.. and now the next one will be built in CANADA again....so I don't know if you intended on sounding like a jack*** but you did, so us Canadiens should get a good price on buying one anyways, but if you work it out it is cheaper for Americans to buy any car Then Canadiens our prices re higher because we have alot smaller population than you guys do.

[mr wzrd]

Originally Posted by MOPAR_MADNESS

How can you call it an American Icon/Muscle car when the original was built in Windsor Ontario CANADA.. and now the next one will be built in CANADA again....so I don't know if you intended on sounding like a jack*** but you did, so us Canadiens should get a good price on buying one anyways, but if you work it out it is cheaper for Americans to buy any car Then Canadiens our prices re higher because we have alot smaller population than you guys do.

I thought your prices up their were higher due to socialized medicine.

[Sigma-6]

I'm not sure that this is a place to get into a political discussion, but 'socialized medicine' has little to do with car prices. A lot of things are significantly cheaper here (cost of living being one of them, in a lot of places, to say nothing of the advantages when your grandparents get sick). As for our gas prices, they're higher because we have a fairly large gas tax, and incidentally, using any of this to reflect anything political (which wasn't my intention either) is pretty moronic, because Alberta, the Canadian province that is most like Texas politically, and where almost all of our gas comes from, pays more at the pump than any other part of the country, per capita.

Can we talk about cars now?