Originally Posted by plumcrazydaytona
what the hell, 4,140 that's way to heavy you blew it dodge.I got screwed when I bought my 07 daytona that no one would let me drive. slow heavy and way to much. Dreams of mine are shattered 0-60 in 5+ years 1/4 times in just under 14 decades. Interior what happen shifter hell dodge were you smokin crack when you did this?
As far as I am concerned. This car is king. I don't mind the 4100lbs. I have a 1994 Chevrolet Impala SS and it's 4200lbs. I know it's a bad example as it's a full-size car vs. a pony car, however, I am happy knowing that there is some extra protection of metal around me becuase for the way I would drive the new Challenger, I really would like the extra safety margin incase I toss it into something tall and stationary. Although this is not likely to happen (as the only car's I have ever owned (four) are powerful rear-wheel drive V8s and have been fishtailing them regularly since I started to drive in 1987) I see way too many Mustangs (and previous generation Camaros/Firebirds) in bad (and some fatal) accidents. Stuff happens when you engage into spirited driving sessions. The extra stuff might be just what the doctor ordered especially when one is trying out the top speed of this mother on a wide long lonely open road. At this rate of speed, the difference between go cart or Boeing 747 may be what is needed to feel safe while you break the speed barriers especially with the upcoming limited slip differential. Mind you I've never had a problem with a locking diff at maxed out speed, even in the rain. Just don't be stupid with the pedal and make any abrupt input changes. Smooth transitions at this rate of high speed will yield rewarding results. The limited slip will grab the road with the trained foot. Otherwise, life-threatening results may occur if you are too random with inputs. Mind you this applies to classic muscle (including my Impala which has no trac control but only the limited slip diff-with 260hp/330lbs-ft torque). The new Challenger will have trac control and stability programs for better or for worse. Better for safety but worse for how much fun one can have tossing this babalu around. I personally like a car with no trac control and stability programs and just a limited slip but it is 2008 after all. Defeating the trac control should be easy, the esp, I am not so sure of.
All the best Challenger Kings and Queens.
Let that Back Bone Slide!
For you beginners, practice on wet empty parking lots with no people after hours. Don't stay in one lot for more than 8 minutes as the fuzz may come around eventually. Rainy nights around city corners are good too as long as there is no cars/people. Another trick, if your city uses street flushers in the summer hot nights, take advantage and tap the throttle with trac control off and then steer into the opposite direction with just enough steer to not lose it into a 180 degree spin (although even if you do, hopefuly you gave it enough steering input to never hit the curb when you do the 180). You might have to shift the direction of the steering (a bit to the left and a bit to the right) when in the middle of the slide and press and/or depress the throttle during all this to maintain a one-sided slide. One sided slides are better as doing an actual fishtail (back end out one way then the other then back the other way) can be fun but may result in a mess of a situation. I suppose drifting is the better word but I used to believe drifting meant all four wheels were sliding. I don't use the word "drift " because of that. Otherwise I would prefer the term "power-on oversteer".
For the non-limited slip cars out there. Slides are definitely still possible but you will have to battle the fact that there is an open non-locking axle back there. If the trac control is off, you will pull it off, however, if you can get a shift kit installed on the automatic providing what would otherwise be a chirp on 1-2, 2-3 shifts in the dry, trying to obtain such a positive shift (by downshifting into 2nd or 1st) in the dry (careful in the rain) while engaging a turn will result in a locking-type situation. If you get the shift on the fly in the turn, your back end will slide silly. I used to do this in my 1978 Chevrolet Malibu Classic 2dr with an open 2.29:1 axle (non-locking) and a Stage II Shift Kit. I would downshift into first (trans had a 2.4:1 planetary first-gear set) after engaging the corner and whoop, out the back end would fly. I don't know how positive the shift algorithms are in the new Challenger. It is possible that reprogramming the shift maps may need to be in order. Be careful though, after such a re-program, someone not knowing (like another driver who doesn't regularly drive the car) how to handle this beast may wind up wraping it around a pole.
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