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Old 02-26-2008, 09:42 AM
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Re: REPORT: 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 not sold out, but bring your wallet

Originally Posted by Rallye72 View Post
So, what do you see happening with the 09's adjustment wise or when would you see the "frenzy" subsiding and prices stabilizing at or near MSRP?

The Mustang GT went thru this for about 2 years, what's your take on the Challenger?
09s will be priced normally.
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Old 02-26-2008, 09:47 AM
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Re: REPORT: 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 not sold out, but bring your wallet

Originally Posted by Toronto_SRT8 View Post
you guys are a bunch of thieves .... that is called price gouging
that is highly illegal here in canada .... thank god i am canadian

we didn't make anyone sign up. in fact, no one in line seemed to care about the markup. they were happy it wasn't $20,000.

the funny thing is you make it sound like its only dealers that are the devil.

say i sold this car at invoice. two weeks later the person who bought it decides to sell it for $10,000 more than he bought it for. Someone sees it and buys it. is he the devil too? or did he just do business the way its done in America?

If i was in canada i would end myself.
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:50 AM
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Re: REPORT: 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 not sold out, but bring your wallet

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we didn't make anyone sign up. in fact, no one in line seemed to care about the markup. they were happy it wasn't $20,000.

the funny thing is you make it sound like its only dealers that are the devil.

say i sold this car at invoice. two weeks later the person who bought it decides to sell it for $10,000 more than he bought it for. Someone sees it and buys it. is he the devil too? or did he just do business the way its done in America?

If i was in canada i would end myself.
I just do not understand this concept that people are being gouged on prices! Why dont you people work for the minimum wage, even if your skills command more in the work place? I mean, arent you gouging business owners, who in turn gouge customers to cover costs?

By the way SRT Pusher, would you give me the opportunity to buy an 08 at MSRP or lower?? I could use a quick $10,000
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Old 02-27-2008, 05:00 AM
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Re: REPORT: 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 not sold out, but bring your wallet

I can understand maybe selling it at 10% over the MSRP, but now it is 20,30,and in some cases 50% over MSRP. That is price gouging and the attorney general here is looking into that.

What SRT Pusher does not care about is that if it was a Wii or any other type of product. You have independent companies that compete in the fair trade world. You can buy these items from many retailers and the internet and most of these companies sell it for the suggested retail price or lower.

Where the AUTO dealership is the only way you can get the car from the factory. Dodge is not selling the Challenger to a website company and thus limiting it to the dealerships.

The dealership forgets that when you start to see more of these cars out there then you will have more people wanting them.
There are others who love the new Shelby Mustang but if they do not see them out there, then they may not know it is out and want to buy one.

If the dealership wants to continue to alienate their loyal customers, then they will be left with NO CUSTOMERS!!!!


If nobody can afford to drive and SRT you will have no choice but to PUSH and SRT!
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Re: REPORT: 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 not sold out, but bring your wallet

I am fine with the dealerships getting what the market allows out of the first cars. I do have an issue with those of us who bought for 2-4K over MSRP and then had our names pulled from the car so they can make more money on them. This is the only issue I have with the dealers currently. It is wrong to put a contract in place with a persons name on the VON and then pull it for more money. This is deceptive and wrong.
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:01 AM
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Re: REPORT: 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 not sold out, but bring your wallet

Market theory aside, price gouging always seemed like a penny-wise, pound foolish policy to me. Say a customer comes in looking for a Challenger. Joe Blow Dealer says, "Pay me $50,000". Customer leaves. Maybe he finds another dealer selling at MSRP, maybe he waits until 2009, maybe he gets something totally different. Fact is, when that customer is looking again, for a Durango or a Charger, that customer is never coming back to Joe Blow dealer and he's telling his friends, "don't ever go to Joe Blow Dealer". So maybe Joe Blow Dealer lost 4, 5, 6 sales and maybe cost Dodge as a brand some customers. So maybe gouging isn't the best policy in the long run, even if the dealer is entitled to get as much profit as he wants.
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Re: REPORT: 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 not sold out, but bring your wallet

Just my .02 here....

I recently decided to put down a deposit on a 2009 Challenger (don't want a '08). I called my current local dealer (been taking my 300C to them for a couple years now) and they signed me right up - with a contract - for a 2009 model for my $1000 deposit to get on their waiting list for when ordering begins. I am on their list (#4) and am confident (fingers crossed) that I will be treated fairly by them. They consistently stated that they felt "building relationships" was more important than making a few extra $$ on the car. I believe them. If this goes through as promised and because of this attitude and mentality towards potential customers -- they have a customer for life.

After I did this, on a lark, I contacted another local Dodge dealer. I was told they were only going to get probably two or three 2009 models - TOTAL. They were not taking deposits and planned on parking them on the lot and in their showroom and attempt to "auction" them off to the highest bidder - esentially the dopes stupid enough to pay the most markup. Because of this attitude and mentality towards potential customers - I will NEVER visit them again, nor will I EVER do business with them in the future.

This is simply how I roll - and I don't allow second chances. Sorry.

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Re: REPORT: 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 not sold out, but bring your wallet

Chris you said it the best!

The dealership costs the automaker more than just one sale because of the added price gouging by the dealership.

How many people that walk into a dealership interested in a particular car and it is within their price range but the added 10k over MSRP drives the customer into the arms of another me too type of car.

I think that is why so many people have bought Camry's or Accords. They are good cars but it is the fact that they make so many and you can pick one up at a good price without the added $$$ over MSRP.

I wonder how many cars and trucks will the Dodge dealer have to sell because they have that added 10 or 20k on the sticker.
How many customers think that you do not have the best deals in town?
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Re: REPORT: 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 not sold out, but bring your wallet

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Market theory aside, price gouging always seemed like a penny-wise, pound foolish policy to me. Say a customer comes in looking for a Challenger. Joe Blow Dealer says, "Pay me $50,000". Customer leaves. Maybe he finds another dealer selling at MSRP, maybe he waits until 2009, maybe he gets something totally different. Fact is, when that customer is looking again, for a Durango or a Charger, that customer is never coming back to Joe Blow dealer and he's telling his friends, "don't ever go to Joe Blow Dealer". So maybe Joe Blow Dealer lost 4, 5, 6 sales and maybe cost Dodge as a brand some customers. So maybe gouging isn't the best policy in the long run, even if the dealer is entitled to get as much profit as he wants.
Although I still do not feel you can gouge on a product readily available, cars, it is not wise to alienate customers.

If Dodge dealerships are conspiring to fix prices, that is illegal. If they are not, the Attorney General in whatever state is investigating is wasting his time and more importantly, tax payer money...

Simply put, if you HAVE to have a 2008, as the title says, bring your wallet!
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:23 AM
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Re: REPORT: 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 not sold out, but bring your wallet

That is why i am waiting for the 2009's to become available. More options and a better price.
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