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From 2.4L I4s to 3.5L V6s: The Road to MOPAR! - The Prologue

Let me just start by letting everyone know a little about me:
I am a 22 yr. old guy married to a beautiful (in so many ways) woman serving the country by way of the Army branch. And if that sentence was vague, it wasn't. We both serve. Army all the way!

I am a big time import fan, growing up on civics, integras, boxy golfs/rabbits and especially Nissans, my favorite flavor.
And nothing gets me going like a 240SX and the many S13 variants. My whole life has been nothing but I4s. Even in bike form, 4 bangers is what I know.
But prior to me joining this forum, thus effectively aligning myself with the MOPAR camp and the Dodge Challenger that goes with it, I was a bit indecisive about which ''pony car'' to purchase after coming off the deployment I am currently starting up in.
And how did I come to wanting good ol' American muscle anyway?
Well, in a kind of ''re-shaping'' of myself, I decided to shed myself of all previous biases and be more open to the world. And that especially meant cars.
So, within in a day, it was decided. An American car is going to be my next purchase. I have driven Japanese and German, it is now time to embrace what my very own country has to offer. So the gauntlet was dropped. Which Domestic was going to break me in?
Well, me being 22 and not wanting to blow all my cash (i do have a wife and responsibilities to our little household you know.) i decided a V6 was the most responsible choice. And doors? Two. That is not a choice. And RWD is mandatory. Those boy racer FWD days are over. And price? Lower to mid-20's is my safe zone.
So we have a two-door, RWD, V6 powered, entry-level priced car. Sounds like a pony car to me!
The Camaro was dropped off very quickly. The look of the car does nothing for me. After seeing it in toy form (a la Transformers) for so long, it just lost a lot of it's flair to me.
The 2011 V6 Mustang then became my poison. I researched that thing into the ground. I could score it for under $20K (overseas discounts), came with a 6-Speed standard and got 30 MPG HWY. Logical, right? Wrong. Naturally.
One day, me and some fellow soldiers were boarding a bus stateside when a beautiful white Dodge Challenger came to a halt right behind the bus we were boarding. Logic went out of the window. And said window wasn't even open, that's just how fast the Challenger got me hooked.

And now I am here, ready to regale you all with a wonderful experience.

Now, after being bitten by the bug, the Challenger became all I could think about. You can ask anyone in my platoon, everyone knows Borders wants a Challenger. And he will get it.
But then I was stricken with the realization of a very unusual dilemma: I am making the money, and will be able to buy the car outright. I am entitled to a very handsome discount. I will even be able to customize it anyway I want and have it delivered to any said location. But I have NEVER driven a Challenger. The only MOPAR experience I have had so far was a 300C and a *shudder shudder* Sebring. 300C was pretty fun but the Sebring... well, let's just say driving it was more a chore than an experience.

What was I to do? Plop down my cash and just hope that the Challenger is what the magazines say? Maybe that is what I would have done if this was my first deployment, but it ain't, and I have gotten a little bit more discerning about how i spend my money.

But then, if I wait to get home to buy it, I lose out on the discount! Oh what a predicament! Oh woe is me!

And so it was for a few weeks... just wondering what to do with myself. And in case you haven't detected it yet, I am a very SERIOUS car guy. I can spend hours on Jalopnik.com (awesome site, do visit), Wikipedia and misc. other sources just reading and learning about cars. And as of late, with me lacking biases and all, the automotive world is only that much more beautiful! So you see, this little situation of mine was really causing me to lose sleep.

Well, with me and all the wondering, i completely forgot I had a 4 Day Pass coming my way.

And naturally, what is a guy to do with 4 Freedom-Filled Days, a pocket full of money and some of the best friends ever who just happen to live hundreds of miles away form each other?

Damn straight. You read my mind... er past... whatever.


And for those who aren't up to speed just yet: I rented a Dodge Challenger.

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I have never driven a new Challenger ( I have a 71 Challenger with a 440 4 speed transplant) but I think they look awesome. I am hesitant to buy one though because (hate to burst your bubble) they are made in Canada and owned by Fiat. Doesn't that make it not an American car?
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I have never driven a new Challenger ( I have a 71 Challenger with a 440 4 speed transplant) but I think they look awesome. I am hesitant to buy one though because (hate to burst your bubble) they are made in Canada and owned by Fiat. Doesn't that make it not an American car?
I would say its an American Heritage.. kinda like the Harley.. alot of their parts are made in Japan but they still call it an American Made product.. we can call it North American Muscle
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Originally Posted by 71chmark View Post
I have never driven a new Challenger ( I have a 71 Challenger with a 440 4 speed transplant) but I think they look awesome. I am hesitant to buy one though because (hate to burst your bubble) they are made in Canada and owned by Fiat. Doesn't that make it not an American car?
Fiat may controll Dodge but it IS still an American company and Canada may not be the USA but they are very much a part of America and it's muscle cars,as Detroit is.
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Jalopnik has tainted your opinion of Chrysler Sebrings. They hate Sebrings and PT Cruisers. Jalopnik doesn't even test drive all the cars they rag on. They just regurgitate the ramblings of other blogging heads.
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To the OP: You have made a wise choice. So whats your plan on color?

White, like the one you saw?
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Originally Posted by Charlie Nascar View Post
Jalopnik has tainted your opinion of Chrysler Sebrings. They hate Sebrings and PT Cruisers. Jalopnik doesn't even test drive all the cars they rag on. They just regurgitate the ramblings of other blogging heads.
i am sorry to say that Jalop has NOT tainted my view on the 2009 Chrysler Sebring. It did that on its own.
I have personally driven a rented one from Houston to New Orleans and back again. the interior plastics seemed to be crudely cut and/or not fit well. The auto was a complete slushbox. the drive itself seemed remote and detached, no kind of feedback or engine sound. there is nothing to be passionate about. hell, the little chrysler symbol in the middle of the steering wheel seemd half-ass glued on. at certain road speeds, it would jiggle just right to make a noise just faint enough to want to just rip the damn'd thing off.

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but i digress...

this isn't about the sebring (thank the heavens), this is about a Chally (again, thanks!).
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no kind of feedback or engine sound.
Sorry to continue your off-topic rant, but most people shopping for a luxury car aim for that.
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I have just spent 45 non-stop, fast and furious days doing training in the bi-polar climate(s) that is Oklahoma. As nice(?) as Oklahoma is, it was time to go back to TEXAS! Houston to be exact.
It is now April 1st and I am on the first day of my four day pass. I am up early in the morning at the airport (if that's what you want to call it.) in Lawton and I decide to call my father so he can arrange my transportation for my little four day jaunt. Little did I know, he had already had something reserved. There was Dodge Challenger SE waiting for me just on the other side of my $235.23 plant ticket. And luckily, I had the foresight to deprive myself of sleep the night before, so I basically just slept from Lawton, OK to Dallas, TX and had myself primed for my landing in Houston, TX.
After some shuffling and some waiting and the little luncheon with my sister, it was time. I tossed some cash to my sister and told her to have a great weekend. She was going to see very little of me for the next few days.
I got a ride out to the drop yard where my dad has his rig. Amidst the baby powder-fine dust, the hustle and bustle of Ashley emblazoned Volvo Tractors and the cloudy smell of diesel, awaited my father. And in his possession was the strange lego-esque key fob that acted as a key. Not only to a metallic black Dodge Challenger SE, but to a super awesome weekend.

The time is about 1320 (01:30 pm for you civilians.) and my dad has just given me the 'talk' about how and why to not be crazy on the road and being responsible and yada yada yada. I am 22, pocket full of money and he had just given me the key-thingy to a Chally. I guess it was just standard procedure at that point.

So I hop in and before I crank her up, I take some time to scope out the interior. And thankfully, it is nothing like the Sebring. Whew.
I adjust my seat, acquaint myself with which side the gas tank opening is on, I adjust my mirrors, i do a head swivel to see how well i can see out of the glasshouse, i find out what each knob does and where all my storage areas are. And in doing all of this, I pick-up on some neat little features:
the armrest can slide back and forth. the cup holders have ample space to hold realistically-sized drinks and even light up to boot. the headlamp knob is somewhere off to the left separately, which keeps "overly busy steering column stalk syndrome" down. The driver seat is electric but the passenger seat is not (sucks to be you passenger!). There is even a power outlet in the center storage bin. And now the last thing to do is plug my iPod up via AUX cable and hit the 610 Loop, i had ground to cover.

First song played in the Chally: "Don't Want Drama" by 8-Ball and MJG. And for those who can tolerate rap music, i think this song is actually very appropriate. But i digress...

A shake hands and hug my father, get in the car, crank and I roll onto the feeder road, going through a few lights, eager to let loose on the on-ramp. After what felt like years waiting through red lights, I was finally ascending up the ramp towards 610 N.
Talk about a beautiful thing. As I go up, I feel the nose of the car lift up as it leads the way up, and with a bit of prodding of the throttle, the 3.5L RWD drivetrain defies the incline and as I level out and merge, the gravitational forces at play within the realm of the incline releases it's grip and the car sort of grunts as I mash the pedal in more. What once was a pretty timid sound coming from the V6 was now a raucous under the hood and the power was near instantaneous, much akin to twisting the throttle on a sport bike. The first real experience with the torque of a V engine in awhile. With my sister in tow driving my dad's 2002 TRD V6 Toyota Tacoma, the once-thought spirited sport truck only seemed to be getting smaller the longer i stayed on the gas. The 4WD/V6 combo wasn't enough to keep up with the Chally. Not with me standing on the gas anyway.
For about a mile at a time, I would just harass the throttle body. WOT, 121 mph, then slam shut. WOT, 115 mph, then slam shut. And the ignorant yet encouraging rap music just fueling my own ignorance. If say "Honeysuckle Breeze" was playing, I would have probably been more tame, but with lyrics professing about shootin' clubs up, my id was ruling my better person.

So about 10 miles and an exit later, I am now in the laid-back suburb that is Kingwood. Negatives of Kingwood: Very pretentious populace, eerily quiet, large beautiful trees being swapped out for strip malls and starbucks at an alarming rate. Postives of Kingwood: Very small populace and the roads are of Road & Track test drive quality. Beautifully shaded and nice and twisty.
So needless to say, with the ESP button poked in and that little 'curvy car' light turned off, it was time to express my love of RWD to the pavement that was holding all 430mm of grip those stock tires afforded me. With all my feint turning power, I would do a slight left and cut hard right with a generous application of gas. And of course, the tires would transgress upon the pavement, but the street being as cool as it is, would just let it SLIDE! I did this quite a few times to get to my dad's property amongst Kingwood's remaining foliage.

By the time I got to the house, my body was just a mess of nerves from my body telling me I shouldn't be doing what I was doing. And it felt so damn'd good. I could have used a cigarette. As I lifted myself out of the giant slab of awesome, I noticed I hadn't even used the Autostick. Didn't matter, the sideways motion the stick looked like it moved in looked as though it'd throw me off anyway.

About 10 min. later, my sister rolls up in the Taco and we get me sorted out. I play with the dog, Izzy a bit, take her for a walk and then I am off to the SW side of Houston. It's still a nice bit of cushy time before the rush hour(s), so I boot scoot all the way down HWY 59 S. In about 30 min, time, I have traversed about 30 miles clean across Houston and I arrive at my friend Matt's place of residence. We get re-aquainted, seeing how I haven't seen him in about 8 months, and just shoot the sh... stuff for about 30 min. And during all of this talk, I am thinking of things to do to get back out on the road. ROAD TRIP!
Like a thunder clap, it's obvious. I haven't seen Niem, a good friend I have known since 2nd Grade, in about a year. And he just happens to live in San Antonio. That's a approx. 280 miles East. It all fits together. Again, I am a 22 year old with a pocket full of a money, and now I have a Chally at my disposal. After a brief talk with my own father of my intentions and a even briefer convincing of Matt's significant other to let him off the chain (you can't argue a Chally!), we get geared up to blaze a MOPAR trail to SA!

To be continued... Good times! *substitute a Corona y limon por favor!*
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Dude! That is the longest post I have ever read. LMAO.
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