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Old 10-25-2008, 09:12 PM
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This may be a redundant post but I wanted to post it anyway in case someone else was thinking of doing the same thing that I just tried. My 2009 R/T was not equipped with Keyless Go from the factory but I like the push button starter. I decided to order the starter push button to see if it would work on my car as it was only $16 bucks. Well, it snaps right in to the socket for the key fob but it doesn't do anything on my car. It was worth a shot as I am only out $16.
Hey littlegto, where did you order it from?
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Hey littlegto, where did you order it from?
I ordered it at my local dealers part department. Part number is 1-1FU931X9AC.
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Re: Starter button Keyless Go

I've got the keyless go but quite frankly I don't see the point of the feature. What's the difference if I push a button with the fob in my pocket or just start it with the key. I've tryed it both ways and I can't see any advantage.
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Re: Starter button Keyless Go

I wish Dodge would have used the system like my Viper, key goes into ignition --push the red button to start --simple.
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Re: Starter button Keyless Go

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I've got the keyless go but quite frankly I don't see the point of the feature. What's the difference if I push a button with the fob in my pocket or just start it with the key. I've tryed it both ways and I can't see any advantage.
Personally, I think that the push button start gives the car an "exotic" or "race car" vibe. I get Ferrari type attention with my little Chally so why not? Not that I have ever had a Ferarri, as I have driven 60's and 70's cars all of my life and I have been a drag racer for 22 years. My Chally is the nicest car I have ever owned. Not a big deal that "Keyless Go" doesn't work on my car. I bought her stripped for the strip.
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Re: Starter button Keyless Go

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I've got the keyless go but quite frankly I don't see the point of the feature. What's the difference if I push a button with the fob in my pocket or just start it with the key. I've tryed it both ways and I can't see any advantage.
I agree. I know it might be neat to have a button, but putting the key (fob) into the slot and turning works for me.
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Re: Starter button Keyless Go

I tend to put a couple other keys on the key ring so it's nice to leave it in my pocket and not have keys swinging off the fob.

The main reason I can see for the push button is if you ever get car jacked and you get far enough from the car the ignition is supposed to shut off.

It does lend more of a race car feel. Putting the key in and turning is fine also. The push button is just kind of fun.
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Re: Starter button Keyless Go

I work for the company that makes the Driver Authorization System (Keyless Go) for the Challenger, as well other platforms. It is a colpicated system. But adding it to your car can be done. In fact. I have the only Challenger SE on the road with keyless go installed! I just installed it this weekend. keyless Go is not even an option with the SE!
To dispel any myths, here is what is needed:
EVIC: does not matter. That is just for display. Without EVIC, everything works just fine. When you press the button once, all your accessories will come on. A second press and the car will start.
The WIN: (Wireless Ignition Node) also does not matter. Any WIN will work.
The FOBIKs: there are 2 types of FOBIKS. If your car did not come with Keyless Go, then you have BASE FOBIKS. They will never work with KG. You have to have Keyless Go Fobiks. The KG FOBIKS have more electronics inside that receive commands from the PEM (Passive Entry Module)
PEM: You need a PEM installed on the CAB B Bus for the system to work. The PEM is attached to 2 LF antenna's. 1 under the back seat and 1 in the IP.

How it all works:
With the Keyless Go Fobik inside the car, when you press the Start/Stop Button (SSB), the PEM send a command out of the LF antennas to find a kitted FOBIK inside the vehicle. If a Kittee FOBIK hears the PEM request, it transmits to the WIN and will allow the car to start. Simple as that.

If you wish to add this feature to your car, it is difficult beacause you need the right tools. Any Chrysler Service department can do this.

1st, you need the proper FOBIKS. The ones you want are Chrysler part# 05026457AF (Latest Revision). They are KG.
2nd, you need a PEM. Any PEM will work. 05026443AF (Latest REV)
3rd, Start Stop Button.

As far as hardware goes, that is all that is needed.

Once installed, the dealership can use the startscan tool to marry the new FOBIKS to the WIN and also transfer the info to the PEM. Then it will work fine.

Bear in mind that these instructions are only for the 8 cylinder engines. Remember that KG is not an option on the 6 cylinder engine. The WIN will send an AF command when the SSB is pressed, to the Engine computer to start it. Sending an AF command to the 3.5L will not start it. To put this system into the 3.5L, the WIN has to be modified (flashed) with a prototype software. This software was from Chrysler when they were considering this as an option of the 3.5L engine.

If anyone is interested in how this is all done, be happy to answer any questions about it.
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Good writeup. What will all of this cost us if we want to install this?
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