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Re: '09 Challenger R/T Gathered Specs / Equipment & Info Related

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I guess since Dodge figures since mostly collectors are buying the 2008's they wont be driven, thus dont need limted slip LOL... All cosmetic enhancements, but lacking in the mechanical dept. the good news is they get to spend $5000 over MSRP too!
This was posted by ResumeSpeed on 12-3-07.

2008.75 Dodge Challenger SRT8 Special Edition

MSRP Including Destination:
$37,995 (plus $2,100 GG tax) Total= $40,095

Interior: Dark Slate Gray

Exterior colors:

BRIGHT SILVER METALLIC CLEAR COAT
BRILLIANT BLACK CRYSTAL PEARL COAT
HEMI ORANGE PEARL COAT

Optional Features:

245/45ZR20 255/45ZR20 PERFORMANCE TIRES $50
MYGIG MULTIMEDIA INFOTAINMENT SYSTEM W/NAVIGATION $890
POWER SUNROOF $950


Standard Features

Drivetrain:

6.1L SRT HEMI V8 ENGINE
5-SPEED W5A580 AUTO TRANSMISSION W/AUTOSTICK
ANTI-SPIN DIFFERENTIAL REAR AXLE (DSA)
3.06 AXLE RATIO (DMP)
160 AMP ALTERNATOR (BAB)
20X9.0 ALUMINUM SRT DESIGN WHEELS (WP3)
245/45ZR20 AS PERFORMANCE TIRES GOODYEAR (TR9)
625 AMP MAINTENANCE FREE BATTERY (BC6)
DUAL REAR EXHAUST (NER)
DUAL BRIGHT EXHAUST TIPS (NEL)
PERFORMANCE TUNED STEERING (SBX)
SEVERE DUTY II ENGINE COOLING (XDL)
SRT TRACK EXPERIENCE (XPY)


How much more proof do you guys need?
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Re: '09 Challenger R/T Gathered Specs / Equipment & Info Related

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This was posted by ResumeSpeed on 12-3-07.

2008.75 Dodge Challenger SRT8 Special Edition
ANTI-SPIN DIFFERENTIAL REAR AXLE (DSA)
How much more proof do you guys need?
Yeah, I know !! For the doubters, also see the quote from ResumeSpeed, under the thread "Canada-2008MSRP about 50,000" below:

2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 500

For the 2008 Model Year only, Canadian automotive enthusiasts will have the chance to own the Limited-Edition Dodge Challenger SRT8 500.
  • First year collectors edition Dodge Challenger SRT8 500 is reminiscent of the 1969 Dodge Charger 500 and is a testament to Dodge’s strong racing heritage
  • The Challenger SRT8 500 shares many of the attributes associated with Dodge racing heritage such as its HEMI performance, Sure grip differential, performance brakes and unique performance exhaust, suspension and steering
  • 0-60 mph in less than five seconds
Very curious though; can anyone enlighten me, if there is a difference between Limited slip// Ant-Spin// Sure Grip??????
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Re: '09 Challenger R/T Gathered Specs / Equipment & Info Related

"Has anyone who wanted an SRT changed their mind? I am now leaning towards an R/T."

Yea, I having second thoughts about my 08 STR and looking at the 09 R/T for the reasons you stated. Additionally, mine was already in the system (C status) with the My GIG and the sunroof, options I personally don't care for. I also wanted a manual trans but, at that time, I wasn't sure the manual would ever be available. I put my $5000 deposit down on 1/8/08 and the check cleared my account the next day. I haven't made a decision yet but I sure am leaning..........
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Re: '09 Challenger R/T Gathered Specs / Equipment & Info Related

The 09 "Buyers Guide" has some problems and Dodge will need to revise it. Example: The "Xenon High Intensity Discharge headlamps" are optional on the R/T with a J-package and standard equipment on the 09 SRT8, however the comparison column show them as standard equipment on the SXT and R/T and "not available" for the SRT8! Who check thes thing befor they release them???
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Re: '09 Challenger R/T Gathered Specs / Equipment & Info Related

I understand this DSA option was listed somewhere and posted here in December. I hope it's true, believe me. I am not a "doubter" and only assert what I read. I suppose Automobile Magazine was testing a Getrag torque-sensing limited slip differential in the 2009 prototype #2 car and comparing it to the DSA limited slip which really makes no sense as they didn't mention any other car had limited slip aside from the #2 car and that the #2 car hooked up in places where the other car struggled. Also their comment on how it's fundamentaly wrong for a performance rear wheel drive car to rely solely on traction control and ESP must be based on what?

So let's assume that the world of DSA exists (and thank God if it does so this "doubter" can thrash kick the living slides out of it on a daily basis). This means that the 2008s have a type of limited slip that sucks according to Automobile magazine. If so, which is it? A non torque-sensing Getrag, a Quafe, a Mercedes AMG unit or a DANA unit?

I want to know the dark beast that lurks behind the DSA door.

The more the price of fuel goes up the more I need a car that I can hang the back-end out to justify the expense. Otherwise I'd rather walk.
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Re: '09 Challenger R/T Gathered Specs / Equipment & Info Related

It's also possible that all the press prototype pre-production cars had no DSA code rear. Since job one isn't until April 14th, we shall see. I'd like to know where the broadcast codes are for the equipment on a car. Are they on the trunk lid? It's a sure bet that all those pre-production cars will be crushed too.

The difference between anti spin and limited slip is nothing.

There can be a difference between limited slip and locking-type differential but often they are spoken in the same breath. For example the Cadillac STS brouchures mention the limited slip option in some sections and under axle headings they call them a locking axle.

Sure Grip is just a marketing term used by the former Chrysler Corporation which ceased to exist on November 1998 when Daimler AG merged with it.

To my knowledge, they don't use this term anymore but may be more suited to the Dodge RAMs, Dakotas, Durangos, Nitros, Libertys, Aspens, Commanders, Grand Cherokees and Wranglers which often use limited slip Dana 44 (9.125 inch) and Dana 60 (9.75 inch) live axle rear ends.

To compare, Ford calls their traditional limited slips TRAK-LOK. Particularly, the Mustang uses a 8.8 inch beast.

GM (Chevrolet particularly) uses Posi Traction for a marketing term.

AMC called it Twin Grip even though they probably used a mix of Sure Grips and Posi Tractions.

The problem with the limited slip rears is that the clutch packs tend to wear out after heavy use usually in 10 years. Even after steady lubrication schedule adherence, they can fail. This doesn't mean that they cause the car not to run, but often don't hook up and act as an open axle non-locking unit.

My 1978 Dodge Monaco pursuit vehicle's 9.125 inch Dana 44 rear (the cover looks like a stop sign) is still in awesome condition. The car can slide sideways in the dry with no hesitation. Mighty Mopar indeed.

Most rear wheel drive cars optioned in San Francisco before the days of traction control had to have limited slip; good luck going up those hills in the rain. Your left wheel will spin up endlessly and is very embarassing. Today, with traction control and a non-locking rear, what would happen going up that hill is brake pulsation and throttle let up usually in the form of engine retardation and you better have enough fuel and the reccomended octane when this happens or the knock can cause fatal detonation to the pistons.
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Re: '09 Challenger R/T Gathered Specs / Equipment & Info Related

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The difference between anti spin and limited slip is nothing.
Sure Grip is just a marketing term used by the former Chrysler Corporation which ceased to exist on November 1998 when Daimler AG merged with it.
MoparG: Thanks for that great explanation !! Everything I've read, tells me this car has the limited slip, but I've seen the 3 different terms used, and wondered if I was missing something. I wouldn't even want the car without it.
Thanks !!
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Re: '09 Challenger R/T Gathered Specs / Equipment & Info Related

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It's also possible that all the press prototype pre-production cars had no DSA code rear. Since job one isn't until April 14th, we shall see. I'd like to know where the broadcast codes are for the equipment on a car. Are they on the trunk lid? It's a sure bet that all those pre-production cars will be crushed too.
Chrysler doesn't put codes on a tage like GM does. Any Chrysler dealer can take your vin and pull all of the codes for that car. I am waiting to see an actual vin so I can see what options are actual on the car.
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Re: '09 Challenger R/T Gathered Specs / Equipment & Info Related

Here is some descriptions from Wiki Cars (not recently updated) and Wikipedia. There are also some good links at the end of the pages.

Limited Slip Differential - Wikicars

Limited slip differential - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And another:

Howstuffworks "What is a Differential?"

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Re: '09 Challenger R/T Gathered Specs / Equipment & Info Related

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I'm beginning to wonder how quickly the 2009 SRTs will be sold. Many will opt for the R/T for the reasons stated above and many will wait for the 6.4 500+ hp engine in 2010.

Has anyone who wanted an SRT changed their mind? I am now leaning towards an R/T.
after I saw the T/A package I'm actually gonna wait for the 6.4 and fit the T/A package but sure they are taking their time with this engine..
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