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Old 11-09-2007, 04:32 PM
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Dodge tested the reaction of the general public to the 2008 Challenger in a California focus group. The event was reported on www.redletterdodge.com, Dodge's official blog site.

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"We here at Red Letter got to sit in on this particular session, held a few weeks back in Southern California to gather initial impressions of the 2008 Challenger — that’s right, the production version of the 2008 Dodge Challenger. And just for you, we’re going to take you where car companies have traditionally never taken their customers…inside the market research room.
For us, it was pretty exciting. We’ve all been working on this vehicle for a long time and not many Dodge folks have caught a glimpse of the sheet metal that will eventually be hitting the streets next year. For the focus group, it was a chance to make a few bucks. And they started the night with patient eyes and polite smiles sitting around conference tables with snacks and drinks for all.

Stepping around the back corridors of this particular facility makes you a kind of wizard behind the curtain…in every room are people looking at pictures and phrases, with cameras rolling and every word and facial expression being scrutinized by the experts.
Without revealing proprietary information, each group basically starts the night responding to questions asked on this particular evening by a man with a thick British accent. Most are general…what are their tastes? When were they born? Where do they live? Don’t I have a funny accent? (He did actually say that.)
As time wore on, the questions became more specific. And a series of car questions and photos slowly led them to believe this was a car company behind the mirrors. And after a few more, they knew it was Dodge.
At this point, they perked up a bit and talked about the pros and cons of the brand. Some even owned Dodge trucks and cars. The American auto industry was discussed and given pros and cons. But the groups still thought this was just normal research and munched on party mix washed down with some complimentary sodas.
We saw several small groups over a course of days go through the same process. And each time, our British-sounding questioner had an ace up his sleeve and time after time dealt it like a hammer.
“Have you heard of the Challenger?”
For most, they knew of the classic Challenger. And for those of the right age, they perked up at the mention of it, retelling stories of great times from their youth.
“Did you know there is a new Challenger coming out?”
A few knew about the concept debut in Detroit in 2006. But most were surprised to hear about the rebirth. And they generally commented that it would be nice to see a new muscle car.
“Well, you’re going to see that car tonight and tell us what you think.”
As you might expect, the group noticeably sprang to life. You don’t have to be a car nut to enjoy seeing a brand new car. Think of those times when you’ve seen a car on the road that you’’ve never seen before. It’s cool. It’s a really cool feeling to take it in, judge it, ponder it and watch it as it departs from view.
These handfuls of people bounced out of their seats and moved to a secure garage in the back, clutching notepads and pens. Sitting nearby were two gentlemen with extremely serious looks on their faces. Their jobs were to ensure nobody — and they meant NOBODY– even thought about taking a picture of the Challenger inside.
(We asked the two if they’d caught anyone trying. “One guy,” the big guy on the right said, unsmiling. His friend on the left didn’t elaborate. We laughed nervously, nodded and shuffled away.)
The groups entered the room to see a black production Challenger sparkling under the lights. Again, we can’t say much…but we can say they were all wide-eyed and gingerly jotting down notes. And again, you don’t have to be a car nut to get a thrill from seeing a car like the Challenger in person. After about five minutes, they were escorted out.
Soon, around the same conference table, the questions began anew. But answers were spirited. Emotions started highlighting their comments. We can’t reveal the crowds reaction, but it’s safe to say everyone had an opinion. People were moved by what they saw. And Challenger burned a definite impression on a new batch of people.
What were their comments and questions? We’re sworn to secrecy…OK, we’ll let you know one comment from a nurse. But don’t tell anyone you heard it here…
After an impressive speech saying how much she liked the appearance, the engine, the interior and the options, she paused for a second. “Oh…and I like the cupholders,” she said.
The room chuckled."
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Re: 2008 Challenger-First Impression

Well, this is quite basic and leaves me with more questions than this "Limey" may have 'pond-erd ' !! What age group /span. Where and how was this select group selected ? Besides snackees and beverages, what reward was given : other than the extreme privelege of viewing a pre-production vehicle aka Dodge Challenger ? Sounds like the host did not even crank this "Badgurl" up; I mean - What's up with that ??? Top it off with a British sounding gentleman conducting a focus group about a superslick American icon : that most likely will not see a left-handed driven roadway !!! Ok, last question : when will the next 'public' reactionary seminar be conducted with all Challengertalkers present ? ??
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Re: 2008 Challenger-First Impression

Im suprised they still wont let pictures out

oh well
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Re: 2008 Challenger-First Impression

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Well, this is quite basic and leaves me with more questions than this "Limey" may have 'pond-erd ' !! What age group /span. Where and how was this select group selected ? Besides snackees and beverages, what reward was given : other than the extreme privelege of viewing a pre-production vehicle aka Dodge Challenger ? Sounds like the host did not even crank this "Badgurl" up; I mean - What's up with that ??? Top it off with a British sounding gentleman conducting a focus group about a superslick American icon : that most likely will not see a left-handed driven roadway !!! Ok, last question : when will the next 'public' reactionary seminar be conducted with all Challengertalkers present ? ??

I think you're missing the point of the opinion survey. The company knows it has the "faithful" as buyers. It needs to see how the car plays with Joe sixpack (hence the nurse who is probably not a car person but since she has an income, is educated, and female, she is a target buying demographic) since the non hipo version will be the biggest seller, as is the 6 banger Mustang.

According to the Page Ranking types, Americans like Brit and Australian accents. That's why you hear so many of them on TV, it's a psychological play. I like them in women if they're cute, otherwise you can have it.

I was able to participate in an opionion survey for a new movie one time. They game me a box of popcorn and let me watch a 10 minute clip of the movie to tell them what I thought. That was it. Thanks and goodbye.

Seems to me that they're still fine tuning the car and this will go on for some time to come.
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Originally Posted by Rallye72
I think you're missing the point of the opinion survey. The company knows it has the "faithful" as buyers. It needs to see how the car plays with Joe sixpack (hence the nurse who is probably not a car person but since she has an income, is educated, and female, she is a target buying demographic) since the non hipo version will be the biggest seller, as is the 6 banger Mustang.

According to the Page Ranking types, Americans like Brit and Australian accents. That's why you hear so many of them on TV, it's a psychological play. I like them in women if they're cute, otherwise you can have it.

I was able to participate in an opionion survey for a new movie one time. They game me a box of popcorn and let me watch a 10 minute clip of the movie to tell them what I thought. That was it. Thanks and goodbye.

Seems to me that they're still fine tuning the car and this will go on for some time to come.
Aaaa ,Y-aahhhhhhh ! I like these cool sounding accents too ; but it seems in this case the survey group misunderstood [ or the reporter of such ] the host's ahhnounciation of Caliber for Challenger : I have a video review of this :
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Re: 2008 Challenger-First Impression

Originally Posted by Ragamuffin
but it seems in this case the survey group misunderstood the host's ahhnounciation of Caliber for Challenger : I have a video review of this :
I either don't watch enough TV, or this never actually aired. Which makes me sad.

As for the Challenger focus group - they don't really have a whole lot more time to be making "tweaks" if they want this thing out there next year. I don't know exactly when this occurred, but if it was within the last year, it's a little too late.

Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep under the new management has the opportunity to make some great decisions and reinvigorate the brand - but I'm really worried they're gonna tank it. Hopefully I'll have a Challenger before the company sinks...

...okay, that's morbid. And besides, there's too much brand equity in the name for it to disappear entirely. But when one of the asian manufacturers sucks it into the congolmerate, it just won't be the same.
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