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Old 02-05-2013, 06:24 PM
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2013 Hemi-Orange is Header Orange?!

I was at the dealership today debating whether I wanted to risk the timing chain debacle and get a Jazz Blue RT auto, it drove so well that it might be worth the risk, when I picked up a 2013 brochure and flipped through it. There is the same Header Orange Challenger picture that was in the 2012 brochure with small print reading "Hemi-Orange late availability. So I made a comment to the salesman about the advertising people having their collective heads up and locked when he told me that Header Orange will now be the Hemi-Orange. What!! I repeated back to him to get a clarification, Header Orange not the Red Orange will be Hemi-Orange now? Yep. Say it ain't so. I can't believe that but he said it with such conviction not a throw away line that you usually hear. All I can say is I hope not.
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You know, even on the photo itself in tiny letters of the new USA version Challenger Brochure it says "in Hemi Orange R/T Classic" but the the photo looks more like Header Orange, so yeah I dunno.

Also they made Hemi Orange Challengers for 3 years but Header Orange was made for like a few months?? 6 maybe?? So that could be the reason why, I still think Hemi Orange was more popular (at the time) I guess we will wait and see!
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Talking out of their asses.

RS has said there's a chance that HO might make a comeback as it was one of their most popular colors.

Calling Header Orange/ Hemi Orange would be like calling GWE/ Gecko Green.

The colors aren't even close in person.
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I would be beside myself if that happened!! I have my rt classic options all picked out...just waiting for the chance to get my HEMI orange ordered. Not sure why Dodge is so secretive about colors coming out.
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Colors in brochures were never the same as reality.
We have to wait and see, but I don't think Hemi Orange will look like any other color in production. It will be like the 2008-2010 Hemi Orange.
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Never, EVER take a dealer's word on colors, engine availability, etc. The forums are the place to go for real info. I learned the hard way years ago, when more than one dealer swore up and down there would be no 350 engines in Camaros or Firebirds for 1987. I took their word on it, and bought a leftover '86 with a 305. I got a great deal, but 10 days after I got it, one of the dealers who told me they wouldn't make them had 4 350 Trans Ams sitting on the lot. One was equipped exactly the way I wanted it, no T-Tops. I was pissed, big time.
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Never, EVER take a dealer's word on colors, engine availability, etc. The forums are the place to go for real info. I learned the hard way years ago, when more than one dealer swore up and down there would be no 350 engines in Camaros or Firebirds for 1987. I took their word on it, and bought a leftover '86 with a 305. I got a great deal, but 10 days after I got it, one of the dealers who told me they wouldn't make them had 4 350 Trans Ams sitting on the lot. One was equipped exactly the way I wanted it, no T-Tops. I was pissed, big time.
Exactly right. I dont think Ive ever met a saleman yet that knew more about the car I was buying (regadless of make) than I did. I do remember I had a friend that was going to sell BMWs and he had to go thru a school to learn about the cars so maybe they are the exception but your best info will be in online forums like this and on allpar.
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That image in the brochures - its photo-shopped.

It was the same one used for the '11 GWE R/T classic brochure.

then got changed to Header Orange for the '12 R/T classic image

Header Orange - brighter shade (less red pigment, no pearl)

Hemi Orange - more red pigments and has pearl.

Its difficult in pictures, but in actual car in daylight - no mistaking the two colors. Header Orange is much brighter (think Creamsicle or Vitamin C/Go-Mango from the old days...)
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2013 Hemi-Orange is Header Orange?!

Most sales people are only interested in selling the lot stock . They don't want to wait around for your order to arrive two months later to get their due . So they never stick their heads in the order codes and would not know HO from a hole in the ground .
Take whatever they say with a big grain of salt .


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I didn't think the '12s and '13s had timing chain issues. I thought they had isolated it to mainly '10 MYs with a few '09s and '11s.
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