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The long rumored 6.2L Supercharged Hemi, nicknamed "HellCat" will debut in the Summer of 2013 for the 2014MY. It will be based on the 6.1 Hemi - with a possible Aluminum Block - and displacing approximately 375 CID (6.2L). Horsepower output will be around 600 HP plus/minus with cylinder head technology developed for/and used on the current 392 Hemi due to its excellent flow numbers will be applied.
Boost (psi) to deliver the approximate 600 HP - plus/minus - stock would be in the 9 to 15 psi range to deliver the horsepower/torque numbers. Currently Chevy/Cadilliac uses 9psi to develop 580 HP in their 6.2L SC V8s and the Ford 5.8 SC V8 uses 15 psi to deliver 662 HP in their 2013-14 GT500. Expect 9 or 10 psi for stock boost giving the aftermarket plenty of room to mod up to 15 psi. A modded "HellCat" should out-horsepower the 5.8 SC GT500 due to the fact that you cannot change both pulleys - like on the 5.4 (2007-12) models. Even Shelby SuperSnakes (2013MY) with the Stage 1 setup (5.8) doesn't touch the Ford factory setup. The entire SC is replaced to deliver 850 HP (Stage 2).
Internals will be highly upgraded, as well as the remainder of the drivetrain to handle the horsepower/torque requirements. Direct Injection and other measures will be applied to deliver MPG, with possible Rear End Gear Ratios being lowered as well for 6speed cars from 3.92 to 3.64 range.
For transmissions - a 6speed Manual and either a 5 or 8 speed (still possible) for automatic cars. Nothing yet is totally confirmed on the remainder of the drivetrain upgrade. However, look for the SRT 6.2 SC "HellCat" package to be in the same ballpark as the ZL1 and GT500.
Below is a photo that has recently been circulating around automotive circles to date.
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I will pull the trigger on this one! I need to get on whatever list there is going to be and get the one right after Jay Lenos'.........or the one before him if I can swing it!
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I really hope they can make the supercharger engine bay look better than that... looks plain IMO... Need some sort of logos on the SC or something. Also, hope its more than 600HP... Closer to 650 would be nice. Sure, we could mod to 750HP easy, but what about the warrantee...probably out the window. Not out on getting it... just hard to justify when you can throw a supercharger in the current 392 for 10K and get more HP. If its in the same price range as the GT500, then we are talking about 65-70K? Trade in for 32K...need another 38K... WOW...like buying another car LOL.. Still, I'll probably bite LOL
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Everything sounds good except I did not read anywhere in your post about rear meat. Please do not tell me they are using the same tire setup (245f 255r) for tires? And hopefully a rim that is more than 9'' wide...
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I really hope they can make the supercharger engine bay look better than that... looks plain IMO... Need some sort of logos on the SC or something. Also, hope its more than 600HP... Closer to 650 would be nice. Sure, we could mod to 750HP easy, but what about the warrantee...probably out the window. Not out on getting it... just hard to justify when you can throw a supercharger in the current 392 for 10K and get more HP. If its in the same price range as the GT500, then we are talking about 65-70K? Trade in for 32K...need another 38K... WOW...like buying another car LOL.. Still, I'll probably bite LOL
Indeed, that picture looks like a standard Magnuson supercharger. I'm betting the pic is fake.
Also, the ZL1 and GT500 both MSRP at $55k. Since we're talking about Chrysler, though, this car will be slower, will cost more, will have little to no aftermarket support and will be warrantied by the most worthless dealership network in the country. You go right ahead and buy one, though.
So basically this going to cost probably around 60-65K. No thanks, when I can super charge my 2010 for less than 9K at a dealer with warranty and get 560 hp at the crank. I would not buy one new. Maybe in a few years when I can justify having a toy, and I have the space, I'll pick up a lightly used one, but I'd never spend that kind of money on a car at this point in my life no matter how awesome it is.
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A modded "HellCat" should out-horsepower the 5.8 SC GT500 due to the fact that you cannot change both pulleys - like on the 5.4 (2007-12) models.
Uhhhhh, who said you cant change upper and lower pulleys on the 2013 GT500???? Whoever it was is........well.........WRONG!!! Quite a few guys running upper and lower pulleys on the new GT500's. And as far as modded 6.2L to "out-horsepower" a modded 5.8, we will see. It will be quite a feat to do that due to the fact that the 5.8 is a 4 valve head and alot more aftermarket support with the Ford stuff.
Dont get me wrong, I hope they do hit this one out of the park but we will see.
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Quite a few guys running upper and lower pulleys on the new GT500's. And as far as modded 6.2L to "out-horsepower" a modded 5.8, we will see. It will be quite a feat to do that due to the fact that the 5.8 is a 4 valve head and alot more aftermarket support with the Ford stuff. 
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