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Old 08-13-2008, 07:30 PM
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Question burnouts???

heres the deal im trying to do burnouts and sometimes it will do it sometimes it wont it seems to want to go foward mostly and ive tried it in all 3 modes
1) esp totally off
2)esp one click
3)and with esp on
seems to have to most burn out response with the esp one click
but even in that mode it just sits there and dosent do anything or may go foward as well
even tried starting out in 1 gear ??
am i doing something wrong????
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Re: burnouts???

Maybe too much grip on those skins keep it up they will break loose.
Go to a hot tar road and lay on it !
When I was a kid we would write our initials in the hot tar with are rear tires ,just a smokin ,or try ,lol.
Marking our terriotory that is for sure.
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Re: burnouts???

lol no hot tar at the local advanced auto parts where i told my buddy i would leave him sum rubber dang it didnt work kind of embarrasing too
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Maybe too much grip on those skins keep it up they will break loose.
Go to a hot tar road and lay on it !
When I was a kid we would write our initials in the hot tar with are rear tires ,just a smokin ,or try ,lol.
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Re: burnouts???

I think you need to start with a little brake to build load to get the tires to break loose.
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Re: burnouts???

Are you modulating the brake pedal? An article some time back said that even with ESP off some remnants of it remain and will prevent you from doing a burnout.

However, you can 'trick' the system and it will allow you to do a burnout if you modulate the brake pedal as you give it gas. The system recognizes you're not in some dire situation and you want to have fun, and it lets you rip through some rubber. You also have to be careful to not bounce the rev limiter or it'll kick into 2nd gear and ESP will throw a fit again.
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Re: burnouts???

cool but what do u mean by ,,modulate the brake pedal?
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Are you modulating the brake pedal? An article some time back said that even with ESP off some remnants of it remain and will prevent you from doing a burnout.

However, you can 'trick' the system and it will allow you to do a burnout if you modulate the brake pedal as you give it gas. The system recognizes you're not in some dire situation and you want to have fun, and it lets you rip through some rubber. You also have to be careful to not bounce the rev limiter or it'll kick into 2nd gear and ESP will throw a fit again.
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Re: burnouts???

Yeah load it up to about 3500 rpm then ease off on the brake a touch break the tires loose reapply brake as soon as you hear the tires break loose floor it.Hang on the brakes roast tires at 300+ degrees for 30 seconds,I had seen this on a Martha Stewert show,lol.
08's with the bld makes it hard to roast the tires but after practice and some skin gone youll be fine.
Serve hot,with a red wine.LOL
Youll get them to break loose practice.

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Re: burnouts???

As in gently push it in/let it out constantly while you're giving it gas.

For instance.

[1] Put full brake on with your left foot
[2] Tap her into autostick, 1st gear
[3] Slowly give it gas with your right foot
[4] Just as the RPMs start to rise, with your left slowly rock the brake pedal in/out (while still constantly keeping enough brake pressure to prevent your car from moving)
[5] Continue to bring the RPMs up while continuing to rock the brake pedal slightly, and you should be doing a big ol' burnout for as long as you want (you must continue to 'rock' the brake pedal slightly for the duration of the burnout)

I don't have first hand experience, but that's what I read on this article:

2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 Full Test

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And yes, we finally do some burnouts in the Willow Springs area. Doing a burnout in this car is somewhat tricky. You can't just mash on the brake with your left foot, feed throttle with your right until the tires start spinning, then floor it and go. That worked in the original '70 Challenger. Forget about it in 2008. The culprit is modern technology.

But you can do it. First you have to shut off the ESP, which itself is a two-step process. Hit the dash button once and you get a "soft" shut-off, which means it's still kind of on. Then hold the button for 5 seconds and it's off — kind of. Yes, it's off but it will still intervene in certain circumstances.

For 2010, the federal government has mandated certain ESP interventions on all cars regardless of whether the system is off or on. Since the engineers were designing a new system for this car anyway, they dialed in the compliance for the 2010 regs. So for instance, if you mash on the brake pedal with your left foot and open the throttle with your right foot at a steady setting for 2 seconds or longer, the ESP computer interprets that as the car being "in distress" and shuts down the engine.

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To do a really major burnout, you have to trick the electronic brain and slightly modulate your foot on the brake as you spin up the rear tires. (Modulating the throttle doesn't work as well.) The computer interprets this modulation as the driver having fun, and it's actually programmed to allow for fun. Then you'll have your burnout.

By the way, when you release the brake, don't let the revs hit the rev limiter at 6,200 rpm or the computer will shut down the engine, shift you into 2nd gear, then give you back control.

It's all a bit tricky but once you get the hang of it, you can smoke the tires at will and look like a NASCAR hero after a big win.
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Re: burnouts???

great thanks sounds fun!!!!!!!!
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As in gently push it in/let it out constantly while you're giving it gas.

For instance.

[1] Put full brake on with your left foot
[2] Tap her into autostick, 1st gear
[3] Slowly give it gas with your right foot
[4] Just as the RPMs start to rise, with your left slowly rock the brake pedal in/out (while still constantly keeping enough brake pressure to prevent your car from moving)
[5] Continue to bring the RPMs up while continuing to rock the brake pedal slightly, and you should be doing a big ol' burnout for as long as you want (you must continue to 'rock' the brake pedal slightly for the duration of the burnout)

I don't have first hand experience, but that's what I read on this article:

2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 Full Test
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Re: burnouts???

Wouldn't it be easier to just rev it up and let your foot slip off the clutch??? lol!
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