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Old 09-30-2007, 07:00 PM
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Camaro will have a B-pillar

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...d=122816?imw=Y

Lutz confirmed that the production Camaro will in fact have a B-pillar, making it a standard coupe instead of a traditional hardtop coupe.

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Re: Camaro will have a B-pillar

Thank you for this news, for nothing more than fact that I don't have to hear the: "I'm going to look at the "Camero", now that the Challenger is going to have a B pillar!" argument.
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Re: Camaro will have a B-pillar

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Thank you for this news, for nothing more than fact that I don't have to hear the: "I'm going to look at the "Camero", now that the Challenger is going to have a B pillar!" argument.
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Re: Camaro will have a B-pillar

I wish I knew what the difference between a hardtop and a regular coupe and a b-pillar were ;\ lol
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Re: Camaro will have a B-pillar

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I wish I knew what the difference between a hardtop and a regular coupe and a b-pillar were ;\ lol
Here is a good explanation of the difference from Wikipedia:

A hardtop coupe is a fixed-roof model designed to look like a convertible with the top raised. While some early models retained side window frames and B-pillars, by the 1950s most were pillarless hardtops, omitting the B-pillar (the roof support behind the front doors) and configuring the window frames, if any, to retract with the glass when lowered. Some hardtops took the convertible look even further, including such details as simulating a convertible-top framework in the interior headliner and shaping the roof to resemble a raised canvas top. By the late 1960s such modifications were often superseded by a vinyl roof.

A pillarless hardtop is inherently less rigid than a pillared body, requiring extra underbody strength to prevent shake. Production hardtops commonly shared the frame or reinforced body structure of the contemporary convertible model, which was already reinforced to compensate for the lack of a fixed roof. With such a reinforced frame, a hardtop was stronger and stiffer than a convertible, but both weaker and (because of the reinforcements) heavier than a pillared body.

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Wink A plus for the B-pillar

IIRC, a GM source, has said that the Camaro's B pillar will save around 100 lb. (no need to beef up the roof to comply with crush standards).

I suspect that a similar weight savings could be realized on the Challenger. This could mean .12-.15 sec. less in the 1/4.
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Re: A plus for the B-pillar

Originally Posted by Cuda340
IIRC, a GM source, has said that the Camaro's B pillar will save around 100 lb. (no need to beef up the roof to comply with crush standards).

I suspect that a similar weight savings could be realized on the Challenger. This could mean .12-.15 sec. less in the 1/4.
For only a hundred pounds;doesn't seem much a do about a B-pillar.The difference is a 150 and a 250 driver; anything bigger than a 318cu can easily negate another 100 lbs.[ i.e. won't make much difference ;will it ? } ! !! Is there a way to avoid what the Feds want or say ? I'd be willing to sign a legal document stating that : I , Ragamuffin will Not require a B- Pillar'd Challenger in Lieu of releasing any & all Feds from any and/or all liabilities' ! ! ??
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Re: Camaro will have a B-pillar

Just use a sawzall!
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Re: Camaro will have a B-pillar

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Just use a sawzall!
Yip, good idea ; will need custom weatherstripping and a couple tubes of "gymshoe goo" ! !
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Re: Camaro will have a B-pillar

Might as well cut yerself a sunroof while your at it! Wanna borrow some wood putty?
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