dodge dealer just called

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Originally Posted by srtdrew

That's what I posted up top of this thread. I'm sure RS will back that up too.

A 7.0 is in very early stages of development, *if* they do come out with it I don't believe it would go into wide production, maybe a couple special models further down the road (definitely not 2009 or 2010). The 6.4L is in the far more advanced stages, as in almost done. Two different versions of the 6.4 have been developed, at this time not sure of the differences, one is/was scheduled as an exclusive for the Challenger.

[futureride]

correct me if im wrong but a 7.0 is 440 motor all old mopar books show a 7 as a 440 they say the 6.1 = 426 HEMI BUT I SAY BS the older hemi has a lot more hp and torque and if any of you ever seen that engine challenge on one of those afternoon car shows i forget what 1 but they had a 66 or 67 max wedge hemi stock on a dyno running 800 hp now i dont believe those numbers but i would say 600 to 680 is a reality ahhh but a 392 stroker punched out with dual qauds in the new challenger would be awesome . ya think they would offer the carb crate motor as an option 6.1 carbed painted hemi orange with cross ram manifold functional scoops and to the ground a dana 4:10 gear with an old style pistol grip shifter lose some weight and switch those 4 piston anchors with a 1 piston break design and to finish it off some old school deep dish rear magnum 500 rims oh and bring back the hijackers and window stickers lmaol

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Originally Posted by futureride

correct me if im wrong but a 7.0 is 440 motor all old mopar books show a 7 as a 440 they say the 6.1 = 426 HEMI BUT I SAY BS the older hemi has a lot more hp and lmaol

Yes, you're just a bit wrong !! 7.0L =426 , 7.2L = 440cu, 6.1L = 372 cu. ; 6.6L = 400cu, 318 cu= 5.2 ; 360=5.9; 340=5.7 ?

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Originally Posted by futureride

i just got a phone call on my cell freehold dodge of nj is getting only black and orange challengers and there going to be arriving shortly at 10.000 over list i requested a silver 1 just thought this was interesting being they just unvailed it at chicago im going philly show to see it

Futureide and others on here just to add my recent experience and totall frustration read on:..........I have to agree to a few on this thread that there is an awful lot of BS going on. Mostly by the dealeships and some from a few on here. I refuse to believe anything I read on here any more untill someone tells me that they have thier new Challenger at home and offers me a look at it and thier sales contract. Why , you may ask, well I have spent endless hours during the last 3 months try to get any concrete info on this car about ordering or buying one. I litterly visited 11 dealers and contacted 18 others by phone and E-mail and the only thing for sure that I know at this time is the following: Most dealers are NOT obeying Chryslers edict that" They will only accept orders with real customers names and with real addresses" , but are apparenttly ordering them with your name and address or a ficticious name and address to get the car in their hands to sell to the highest bidder on thier list of Challenger customers. You ask how or why do I think this ? Because now I've gotten several calls from the dealers who originally said they didn't know how many Challengers they were getting alloted, or what the selling price would be , or asked a ridiculous price over MSRP with a large non-refundable deposit, now offering me the " opportunity" to put $1,000 down to get on the list to buy a 2008 SRT8 Challenger that they are getting in soon to the highest bidder.
The other thing that I'm sure of is that all the dealers are sure they are not only going to get, but pricing these cars at a Min of $5,000 to a Max of $20,000 over msrp. Thats what I was told by all 29 dealers in the NJ, NY, Penna area. So I will not believe anything else untill I actually see it in someones hands and only ask that all of you be very cautious in what your told by these totally price gouging, greedy dealerships, in my area especially. I'll finish by saying this , I'm totally sure that somewhere across America there are a few honest, trustworthy, ungreedy dealers willing or actually selling these cars for MSRP or maybe $1,000 over MSRP which I have offered to the dealers that I contacted . At last I have also been told when I told these dealers that I would wait for the 2009 Challengers that they would carry a premium price also based on the law of supply and demand.So be cautious everyone and lets see what washes out!

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One should go in to a dealer with a concealed video camera and order his promised car and then rub it in their faces and walk out threatening them to pursue this to the top at Crhysler ... laughing away

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Originally Posted by 6 Pack

One should go in to a dealer with a concealed video camera and order his promised car and then rub it in their faces and walk out threatening them to pursue this to the top at Chrysler ... laughing away

Yeah, that's what I was thinking; with a few micro-bugging devices placed here & there too ! Also, this dealership $$$+over MSRP fiasco; just goes to my "suggestion" placed here months ago ,which is : For Chrysler to impliment a " COME TO THE BRAMPTON FACTORY TO BUY DIRECT AND DRIVE HOME IN SAME DAY" PROGRAM !!! I remember years ago when my uncle ,who was in the Marines, would go to the GM Cadillac factory[ Detroit] to pick up his new car . Now, I don't know if the Military has a special deal with the automakers or not. Does anyone know ? I do know that at least Chrysler has a 'sales and ship' program ; as when I purchased my 1967 Chrysler Newport [from a little car lot dealer in Tucson in 1992] and just happened to look at the owner's manual in the glovebox !!!! To my amazement was this : line 1- Corp sold by : typed in was - Chrysler Military Sales Corp. - Line 2 -Shipping Destination - typed in was : Vaduz, Lichenstein !!!!!!!!!!! It's in very good shape except for normal dings and dats: looks like one of those cars you'd see President Eisenhauer or Kennedy riding in when overseas !!!

[Cuda340]

Originally Posted by futureride

correct me if im wrong but a 7.0 is 440 motor all old mopar books show a 7 as a 440 they say the 6.1 = 426 HEMI BUT I SAY BS the older hemi has a lot more hp and torque and if any of you ever seen that engine challenge on one of those afternoon car shows i forget what 1 but they had a 66 or 67 max wedge hemi stock on a dyno running 800 hp.

I agree that the 426 Hemi has more hp potential than the 6.1, after it was basically a race engine built for NASCAR than was de-tuned to run on the street.

However the Street Hemi and 6.1 have the same 425 hp and are practically identical in 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Actually if you look at old road tests of cars with the 426, the 6.1 may be a shade quicker. (That may be due to better tires and suspension).

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Originally Posted by Cuda340

I agree that the 426 Hemi has more hp potential than the 6.1, after it was basically a race engine built for NASCAR than was de-tuned to run on the street.

However the Street Hemi and 6.1 have the same 425 hp and are practically identical in 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Actually if you look at old road tests of cars with the 426, the 6.1 may be a shade quicker. (That may be due to better tires and suspension).

On being quicker than the old 426 Hemi,could it be due to having fuel injection or multi-port sequential injection vs. the OEM of points.condensor and carburetor ? Or what about the better /newer tech spark plugs ?

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Originally Posted by Cuda340

I agree that the 426 Hemi has more hp potential than the 6.1, after it was basically a race engine built for NASCAR than was de-tuned to run on the street.

However the Street Hemi and 6.1 have the same 425 hp and are practically identical in 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Actually if you look at old road tests of cars with the 426, the 6.1 may be a shade quicker. (That may be due to better tires and suspension).

Although the ol' 426 Hemi was "built for NASCAR" and "detuned for the Street", it was, in actuality, a rush job that...worked.

Chrysler had reached the apex of HP with their 426 Max Wedge. They were notching the tops of cylinder bores to fit the large intake valves, and were at maximum performance.

There "wasn't time" to tool up from scratch an all new "Hemi", so, they modified a 426 Wedge block to fit a new set of Hemi Heads. Mods to the Block included 4-Bolt Main Crankshaft Caps, and different cylinder head clamping.

Purists of the time protested that it wasn't a "true Hemi", because the exhaust valved were canted at 43 degrees (!) and not 45 like the intakes, and because of the modified block's "wedge" heritage. Didn't matter, because the "new" Hemi rewrote Racing History, starting with NASCAR.

Funny how some "purists" don't regard the newest (5.7/6.1) Hemi as a true Hemi because of the 28 degree canted valves. Who Cares! These Cars Rock...

Trivia Question: What was the configuration of the very first Hemi installed in a Chrysler Test Mule Automobile?

LJB

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Originally Posted by M3SMG02

Trivia Question: What was the configuration of the very first Hemi installed in a Chrysler Test Mule Automobile?

LJB

I think it is/could be a four cylinder HEMI in a car called The Welch !!!