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#41 (permalink) Old 12-10-2012, 02:29 AM
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I race autocross and by that standard the Challenger is huge but then again it's a sport designed for Mustangs and smaller. I had a hard time getting across to a guy at the track once that "Yes, my car weighs over 2 tons". At the end of the day I may not win but I sure don't come in last and I wouldn't trade pink slips with anybody at the track.


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Most of the people making those comments are magazine racers, we have a couple of those here in fact. They see that the Mustang is a tenth faster and the speed racer in them thinks thats the end all, be all so they trash the Challenger. In fact, 95% of the people who buy these cars will never use all the the performance available, but it sounds good at car shows. Neither the camaro nor the mustang have the room, performance, or looks of the Challenger. Ive been in a Mustang for a 4 hour trip and it was ok, but I was ready to get off the road. Do the same trip in the Challenger and you can keep going and going, all the while taking 3-4 other people with you and a trunk full of luggage. You cant do that in a mustang, its a one trick pony, while the challenger is a great highway cruiser.

I think those people are idiots anyway that buy a new car strictly for 1/4 mile #'s. You would be better off buying a $10,000 fox bodied drag car that runs 10's then dump $40 large into a new car to simply drag race.
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for me the challenger is the perfekt car.
i own 2 Mustang 1x 08 Mustang gt and a 11 shelby gt500.
now the 12 challenger rt.
the rt has for me the perfekt balance of Power and comfort.
it has enogh Power for german highways to keep BMW Mercedes audi ect behind.

i Drive in sumer with my girlfriend to italy 1200km on the way i meet a Porsche 911 we pull hard after road work and he can't Drive away. he was that suppriesed that we take over at the gas Station and Talk.
and he was more suppriesed when he saw i hat the back Full with 100 Liter propane tank 4 bags for holidays etc.
i can Drive in comfort in holidays and have fun.

that my 2 cent to fat and slow

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Mustangs may weigh less, but I hate going out to dinner with a lady who "just has the salad..." As in many things, a few pounds and a few curves makes for a better experience.

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I never thought of Mustangs or Camaros as muscle cars--not in the original sense of the term, anyway. Not 100% sure a Challenger is either, really, but closer. A Super Bee was a muscle car (big engine in a b-body Coronet 'family' car), the Challenger (e-body) was designed as a pony car (like the Mustangs, Camaros, Firebirds, etc.), no?

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I race autocross and by that standard the Challenger is huge but then again it's a sport designed for Mustangs and smaller. I had a hard time getting across to a guy at the track once that "Yes, my car weighs over 2 tons". At the end of the day I may not win but I sure don't come in last and I wouldn't trade pink slips with anybody at the track.
It's like Dirty Harry's .44 mag. Not the most practical, concealable, easy to control, or full of ammo gun out there by far... but when it went off at the range or on the street people took notice! If you can handle it (and you sure can - I saw your vids), a large powerful car gives a hell of a show on a tight course.
If I lived at the track I'd own something else, but I don't and the Challenger is very livable for everyday while perfectly able when it comes to kicking butt - an awesome compromise. It just requires a bit of manhandling and gusto in the twisties; ain't nuthin' wrong with that...
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I think you're confusing the Challenger with this:


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Haven't bought my Challenger...YET....but its because of the "negative" comments about the Challenger are the reasons why I am buying one. Been researching the Mustang, Chaly, and Camaro for the past six months and made my decision. Plain and simple.... 6 speed, v8, RWD, Hemi, comfortable and most of all....LOOKS BAD AZZ.

Its funny about a lot of the comparison reviews I read where they place the Dodge in third place but yet most of them say that if they had to have a daily driver and go on long trips...the Challenger would be the car they would take. Its because of the size...that makes it comfortable.
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Our cars are heavy ,but so are the ZL1 and the GT500. They corrected the problem by adding power instead of dropping weight. That's easier to do with current platforms.

I have to say though, from owning a 2010 GT500 with 540HP that my Yellow Jacket isn't much slower and many have proven that they will even run faster at times. To me the difference in 1/4 mile times between these cars doesn't mean much for an everyday driver. If I was drag racing every weekend, well then I wouldn't have any of these cars because there are much lighter and less costly options to go fast down the 1/4 mile.
The SRT8 brings much more to the table for everyday driving than the other two for me.

It's the media that has people brainwashed into thinking these cars are slow, fat and don't handle well. I was one of them. I never gave the Challenger a chance because of everything I read. I got lucky that the stars lined up right for me to bring home a Yellow Jacket and I couldn't be happier.

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That's the problem with reviews: people are more concerned with what others will think of their opinion than with telling the truth. So that their own choices (what's really telling) have little to do with what they recommend to others. There's a lack of perspective in most reviews and it's exploited by the makers of flawed products: make the car 1/10" faster than the rest, for example, and they'll have to give it first place regardless of its shortcomings. The number is all that people (YouTube kids) will remember. I was watching a bunch of old Challenger clips yesterday and someone said, "You can't test a spec sheet", and it's very true. The boy/bench racers mentioned earlier do that all the time, though, and this is why they should be ignored.
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