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Old 05-08-2008, 09:22 AM
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Re: Goldman Sachs fuel futures/Dodges new Gas Card incentive.

Originally Posted by championjeep View Post
On almost all of our vehicles that this program applies to it is better to take the rebates than the Gas card
I disagree.

The Journey is a $1000 rebate or 1800 gallons of fuel. At $3.64 a gallon (national average), that is a $1170 savings. At $4.00 this is an $1800 savings.

The Caliber gets 1500 gallons in lieu of a $750 rebate.

The Avenger gets 1714 gallons in lieu of a $1000 rebate

The Nitro gets 2000 gallons in lieu of $1250 rebate.

The Charger you give up $1500 in rebates for 2000 gallons of fuel.

The Grand Caravan fits in the same (you give up $1000 of rebate to get fuel savings on 1895 gallons), as do the

It doesn't work well for the Durango as you only get 2400 gallons, but have to give up $2000.

All Diesels will benefit - give up $2500 in rebates for 2400 gallons in fuel. Diesel savings are at $1.10 / gallon.



As you can see, at current prices the savings is minimal, but if prices go up, the customer will benefit.

also, from my experience in the car business, people would rather have fixed expenses (locked car payment + locked fuel price) than variable (variable gas prices)

also, wouldn't it be nice to not have to drive around looking for the cheapest gas station?
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Re: Goldman Sachs fuel futures/Dodges new Gas Card incentive.

Read between the lines here


Originally Posted by SRTpusher View Post
I disagree.

The Journey is a $1000 rebate or 1800 gallons of fuel. At $3.64 a gallon (national average), that is a $1170 savings. At $4.00 this is an $1800 savings.

The Caliber gets 1500 gallons in lieu of a $750 rebate.

Actually a rebate of $1,750 with the bonus cash

The Avenger gets 1714 gallons in lieu of a $1000 rebate

Actually $2000 with the bonus cash

The Nitro gets 2000 gallons in lieu of $1250 rebate.

Nitro works with this program

The Charger you give up $1500 in rebates for 2000 gallons of fuel.

The Charger base/SXT $2000 rebate plus $500 bonus cash
The Charger R/T $3000 rebate plus $500 bonus cash

The Grand Caravan fits in the same (you give up $1000 of rebate to get fuel savings on 1895 gallons)

Actually a rebate of $2,500

It doesn't work well for the Durango as you only get 2400 gallons, but have to give up $2000.

Acually a rebate of $3000 plus $2000 bonus cash so it still doesnt work

All Diesels will benefit - give up $2500 in rebates for 2400 gallons in fuel. Diesel savings are at $1.10 / gallon.

We will use a Grand Cherokee Diesel for example here:

Rebate $1500 plus $2000 bonus cash



As you can see, at current prices the savings is minimal, but if prices go up, the customer will benefit.

also, from my experience in the car business, people would rather have fixed expenses (locked car payment + locked fuel price) than variable (variable gas prices)

also, wouldn't it be nice to not have to drive around looking for the cheapest gas station?



You statement does make lots of sense if you arent giving the consumer all of his rebates
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Re: Goldman Sachs fuel futures/Dodges new Gas Card incentive.

Originally Posted by worlok View Post
As unlikely as it seems right now, what if the govt decides to (finally) back the Dollar and then oil drops? Then you got a card guaranteeing at a higher pump price. Granted this seems very unlikely now but you never know... I guess everything is a gamble. Gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. ;-)
The moment the economy starts to stabilize the Fed will crack down hard on the ginormous commodities bubble that has been forming and oil, gold and the rest will plummet. The longer this bubble inflates the harder it will crash. Just like housing. And the stock market before it. (notice the pattern forming here) But that's a rant for a different forum I guess.
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Re: Goldman Sachs fuel futures/Dodges new Gas Card incentive.

Ive heard the recession will run much deeper than anyone can imagine Lets hope not huh, with no recovery for at least 3-5 years at least!
The bail out you speak of may be too large for the country to handle.
This constant and persistent deregulation of every facet of our lives is a new page isn't it seems to follow the old Enron credo to a tee.

Lets hope everyone is wrong and the average family does not crumble due to just rising fuel costs this may affect the car market severally let alone the entire economy.
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Re: Goldman Sachs fuel futures/Dodges new Gas Card incentive.

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Ive heard the recession will run much deeper than anyone can imagine Lets hope not huh, with no recovery for at least 3-5 years at least!
The bail out you speak of may be too large for the country to handle.
This constant and persistent deregulation of every facet of our lives is a new page isn't it seems to follow the old Enron credo to a tee.

Lets hope everyone is wrong and the average family does not crumble due to just rising fuel costs this may affect the car market severally let alone the entire economy.

I was watching Kudlow last night and they had an interesting chart showing that as a percentage of, something like individual personal income or something, that gas is still not as expensive as it was in the early 1980's. When you take into account rising incomes since then, as a percentage, it's still not THAT bad. Take from it what you will.
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