Have you guys checked out the Chevy and Mustang forums

[cjcuda]

I'm glad to hear that the Trak Pak option is only $800, but is that info reliable?

[NOTSURE]

yep, if not less.

Originally Posted by cjcuda

I'm glad to hear that the Trak Pak option is only $800, but is that info reliable?

[TBONE24]

Originally Posted by Venthos

Yep that sounds about right. My '08 fully optioned was ilke $41,900 before taxes and stuff -- just straight vehicle price. Like I mentioned if you then add the $800-900 6-speed w/trak pak onto that it comes out to just short of $43k (like Bob suggested).

I am like you, though, and nixed the sunroof from my option list. Primarily because I think the car (especially if you get a car that's not black) looks much better without it interrupting the lines of the roof. Especially in the context of muscle car appearance.

Before I get flamed, that is a personal preference. By no means do I think it looks "bad" with a sunroof. I just prefer without.

The side-bonus of nixing the sunroof is, again like you said, the cost is basically identical again to a fully loaded automatic.

Plus it should make the car weigh a little less too.

[425hpChargerSRT8]

yea but I wouldn't count on losing more than 8-10lbs

[Cuda340]

The following was posted on chargerforums:

By Terry Jackson

Robert Lutz, vice chairman of global product development for General Motors, issued a warning that may concern buyers of high-horsepower cars like the Mustang, Corvette and even Porsche.

Looking into the future, when the new federal mandates on fleet fuel economy will demand an average of 35 miles per gallon, Lutz believes there will be little or no room for cars with high horsepower ratings.
The message is clear: If you love these types of vehicles, now is the time to buy them (despite soaring gas prices) because they are going the way of the dinosaur.
Lutz specifically said the new 2009 Camaro, which will hit showrooms around January, may only have a lifespan of three or four years.
He said V-8-powered cars of all styles are likely to be supplanted by V-6 models or four-cylinder versions with a boost from a hybrid electric power plant.
Manufacturers may be able to get the fuel mileage -- city and highway combined -- for trucks and sport utility vehicles to 30 miles per gallon. But for each of those vehicles they sell, they'll have to sell a sedan that gets 40 mpg or more to meet the fleet average.

That means there's little chance GM will continue to build cars like the new Corvette ZR1, with its supercharged, 6.2-liter V-8 that produces 620 horsepower.

The coming rules could mean a big pullback in U.S. offerings for manufacturers like Porsche that have fewer types of vehicles to spread the mileage mandate. After all, it's hard to imagine a Porsche Cayenne SUV or a Turbo Carrera easily averaging 35 mpg. What does this mean if you're in the market today for one of these cars?
In some regards, now is a good time to buy. Sales of V-8 machines are understandably down due to higher gas prices. And if such vehicles are your pleasure, there are rebates and deals to be had. The added incentive of "get it now, or you've missed your chance'' may also come into play.

Students of history will be quick to point out that we've seen this situation before.
In the 1970s, OPEC oil embargoes and power-strangling emission rules caused the death of the muscle car and, at one time, reduced the mighty Corvette's engine to less than 200 horsepower.

But technology -- spurred by consumer demand -- eventually returned horsepower to all vehicles. On average, today's cars are the most powerful ever produced.
So skeptics might view Lutz's remarks as nothing more than a sales ploy designed to move slow-selling vehicles off lots now before the 2009 models arrive.
But barring a change in the federal mandates, the new fuel economy rules will change the automotive landscape.

And it could be a long time, if ever, before high-horsepower cars make a comeback.

[NOTSURE]

I had a feeling this was going down thanks cuda for the info.

Originally Posted by Cuda340

The following was posted on chargerforums:

By Terry Jackson

Robert Lutz, vice chairman of global product development for General Motors, issued a warning that may concern buyers of high-horsepower cars like the Mustang, Corvette and even Porsche.

Looking into the future, when the new federal mandates on fleet fuel economy will demand an average of 35 miles per gallon, Lutz believes there will be little or no room for cars with high horsepower ratings.
The message is clear: If you love these types of vehicles, now is the time to buy them (despite soaring gas prices) because they are going the way of the dinosaur.
Lutz specifically said the new 2009 Camaro, which will hit showrooms around January, may only have a lifespan of three or four years.
He said V-8-powered cars of all styles are likely to be supplanted by V-6 models or four-cylinder versions with a boost from a hybrid electric power plant.
Manufacturers may be able to get the fuel mileage -- city and highway combined -- for trucks and sport utility vehicles to 30 miles per gallon. But for each of those vehicles they sell, they'll have to sell a sedan that gets 40 mpg or more to meet the fleet average.

That means there's little chance GM will continue to build cars like the new Corvette ZR1, with its supercharged, 6.2-liter V-8 that produces 620 horsepower.

The coming rules could mean a big pullback in U.S. offerings for manufacturers like Porsche that have fewer types of vehicles to spread the mileage mandate. After all, it's hard to imagine a Porsche Cayenne SUV or a Turbo Carrera easily averaging 35 mpg. What does this mean if you're in the market today for one of these cars?
In some regards, now is a good time to buy. Sales of V-8 machines are understandably down due to higher gas prices. And if such vehicles are your pleasure, there are rebates and deals to be had. The added incentive of "get it now, or you've missed your chance'' may also come into play.

Students of history will be quick to point out that we've seen this situation before.
In the 1970s, OPEC oil embargoes and power-strangling emission rules caused the death of the muscle car and, at one time, reduced the mighty Corvette's engine to less than 200 horsepower.

But technology -- spurred by consumer demand -- eventually returned horsepower to all vehicles. On average, today's cars are the most powerful ever produced.
So skeptics might view Lutz's remarks as nothing more than a sales ploy designed to move slow-selling vehicles off lots now before the 2009 models arrive.
But barring a change in the federal mandates, the new fuel economy rules will change the automotive landscape.

And it could be a long time, if ever, before high-horsepower cars make a comeback.

[SRTpusher]

tesla. horsepower in another form is already here.

[NOTSURE]

love the tesla...What a great car,named after a great man!

[BlackRT]

Originally Posted by SRTpusher

tesla. horsepower in another form is already here.

yeah... how cool is that? I'd love to test drive that car. Now if the major automakers would get on board. I have no doubt that as long as there is technology and wheels, someone will figure out how to make it fast!!