A Jeep has a more sportier interior than our sports cars.

[swagled]

I will apply "Occam's Razor" on this speculation, and say we will probably see some of the Charger or 300 interior bits appear for 2014. That's relatively simple to engineer, and the dash supplier can work with existing parts.

I'd be surprised if they turned the designers loose to fully re-evaluate the interior of a low production model like the Challenger. It can't get the resources that Jeep did.

[MoparOhio]

Originally Posted by swagled

I will apply "Occam's Razor" on this speculation, and say we will probably see some of the Charger or 300 interior bits appear for 2014. That's relatively simple to engineer, and the dash supplier can work with existing parts.

I'd be surprised if they turned the designers loose to fully re-evaluate the interior of a low production model like the Challenger. It can't get the resources that Jeep did.

Exactly!

[USRWDV8]

Occa's razor is behind the KISS principle that I keep bringing up, and a big reason why I personally resist change under the "If it ain't broke..." approach to progress. Evolution, yes, but as long as all the fluffy and overly complex directions are ignored and discarded as unviable, just like in nature.

[Doc Fluty]

Originally Posted by USRWDV8

Are some of you guys selling tickets to visit your car and trying to dazzle crowds? People who race cars aren't interested in cute or fashion-forward, they want stuff that works and won't break easy.

Please don't try to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't be interested in, everyone has their own opinion on everything and telling people what they should think is a little.... douchy

Why the thought of someone wanting a more modern interior is offensive to you. Because it seems like you're saying everyone who doesn't have your sense of style is just wanting to show off for the crowds and shouldn't be allowed to have their own thoughts. I dont really hearing any recalls on the 300's or chargers gauges... so it frikin seems like they work too bud.

Where the rule book is that says only engines can be upgraded. Because if they wanted to update the engine to a 500 CU. In monster im sure you wouldn't complain.... but if they dropped a new set of gauges that's just too much for you, huh?

I cant believe you haven't taken out the rear independent suspension and put a live axle back there yet... or went back to drum brakes... hell those worked, why bother upgrading to something new?

But im sure your canned response to that question is that those items affect the driving experience and actually make the car better/faster. So by that train of thought it really shouldn't matter WHAT the car looks like right? Because they way something looks doesnt matter.. only the way it drives.

So lets ditch the challengers lines and buy the sleekest/lightest car with no air conditioning, radio, leather or sunroofs and everything that doesn't contribute to the actual driving experience and do away with them... lets all not give two thoughts about which rims we personally like and just buy the lightest out there.

Yeah, see how dumb my response is?

That's exactly how I feel about your goofy rant about someone who simply wants nicer gauges and radio in HIS car.

[USRWDV8]

Originally Posted by Doc Fluty

Yeah, see how dumb my response is?

Sure do, Doc. I can come across as a little preachy, I'll give you that. You seem to have missed much of my point about progress, however.
Oh, and why is it that when someone lines up more than two sentences the post is called a rant? We're not texting or YouTubing.

[Doc Fluty]

Your response started off by referring to the dictionary and bringing up the term neomaniac, and you're surprised I missed your point about progress?

I made very clear what I don't like about the interior. I never mentioned the plastics and when did i say the anything about the competition (as in ford or chevy).

I simply stated that vehicles in the same family (or diff family as in the jeep), from the same company, have nicer gauges, media centers and have a fit and finish more in line a $50,000 car than the interior of a srt challenger.

[USRWDV8]

I know that this is your thread, but you really shouldn't take people's posts so personally. Much of what I stated here is in response to my growing frustration towards a percentage of posters who have been pushing for change and trying to silence those who live in the past, as they see it... not necessarily to you. The Challenger happens to be a refuge vehicle for a core of car enthusiasts who miss the originals and are not so in love with much of what is called progress. I wouldn't be suprised to see some ask for FWD or at least AWD on this vehicle. Not that those are wrong per se either, but they would be for this car and in my book.

This is just another case of being unclear on the concept to me, like those guys who keep clamoring for less weight and more HP to keep up with the 5.0. Why not get a Mustang if you want a track car instead of butchering the only cruiser around? Here we're talking about loading a muscle car with electronics and diluting its heritage instead of encouraging Dodge to nurture it. There's only one Challenger, while if red superimposed gauges and soft shapes are your thing many other vehicles will happily satisfy your taste.

And much of what I said elsewhere can be traced back to your own use of the term 'sportier' in this thread title. Had you stated that the Jeep's interior was nicer, more contemporary, or better equipped... I would've had to consider this a matter of personal taste, not something to argue against. But sport means performance and the changes have nothing to do with that otherwise that mouse, I mean, knob that they use in conjunction with the 8-speed wouldn't exist because it's just another gizmo with little user feedback and control.
Those changes have everything to do with keeping up with the Jones, i.e. satisfy those who want the Challenger to look just like any other car (an Audi, if possible) on the inside. As I said (and have been saying for a while now) there are things that need improvement on this car, and I'm dismayed to see that they are focusing their efforts on what I see as superficial appeal. The fact that it's precisely what many demand is why I don't blame Dodge (they're in the business of selling cars, not to make the best or most timeless product), but fellow owners.

[odiHnaD]

Originally Posted by Monte Fiasco

I am more annoyed that the Jeep has larger brakes and 20x10 wheels.

With almost 1000lbs more weight than the Challenger the GC needs the larger brakes, it also needs the wider tires for the added cornering grip.

[Kytann]

or this





Actually between these two I like the ooverall shape of the Challenger better. I do like the materials in the new Charger. And some of the detailing of the gauges. But I do not like the giant arch covering 2/3rds of the dash on the charger. It just looks intrusive and ugly to me. Also confining. Like trying to look over a giant wall.

[swagled]

I like the metal door latch in the Charger pic, and the gauges, and better quality louvres on the vents. The Challenger vents look like they came right out of the 1980s to me.

I would prefer the larger HVAC knobs from the Challenger, though.