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Old 01-13-2013, 04:16 PM
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They did a great job on the new Challenger, but the '70-'74 was lower, wider, and more aggressive profile any way you look at it.
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Originally Posted by pdx.challenger View Post
It's not too high - your '72 is what a muscle car is all about. This is the reason that I won't lower my car.

It amuses me when Challenger owners who are older, claim to be hard-core old school, but insist on touchscreens & lowered cars.
Exactly damn right. Normally the guys with the slammed cars and the flat black (PRIMER COLORED) paintjobs were way too young to have remembered the real thing. Kinda like those guys you meet that graduated high school in 76 and said they were in the Nam. Now they are the same guys who think 22 inch black Foose wheels look great and dont realize 15 (or even 14) inch Cragers and Americans were the real thing. Old school muscle was always high in the back and sometimes in the front too and was usually the brightest darn color you could paint it. That purple Challenger is a great looking ride my friend.
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The modern Challenger is a bit taller than the 70's E-bodies, at least in height. So it was easier to get a mean rake to the older car. I've lowered my 09 Challenger with BC Racing coilovers, and have the back end about 1/4" higher than the front, and it gives it a pretty good stance.


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I had mine at a Local Car Show. There were only 2 there. My 2010 and this nice 74.

They parked us side by side so people could get a better look at the differences between the old and new.

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By today's standards, my 72 was too high. But back in the day, I remember loving the look of high-boy Impalas and Econoline axeled Gassers.


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When I think of raked, this is what I envision as "correct".........


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When I think of raked, this is what I envision as "correct".........


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And you are correct Sir... great shot!
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Now this is raked. Thunderbolt and Lightfoot. Trunk full of bunnies.

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So the big question for me is...can a modern Challenger get raked like that and make it work, or does it just look ridiculous? I don't mean so much jacked in the air, but just the rear higher than the front? I also would the angle do something weird with the toe behavior (make it uncorrectable or just plain flaky when it comes to any kind of suspension motion)?...not only front, but also rear now, given all that irs activity.
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So the big question for me is...can a modern Challenger get raked like that and make it work, or does it just look ridiculous? I don't mean so much jacked in the air, but just the rear higher than the front? I also would the angle do something weird with the toe behavior (make it uncorrectable or just plain flaky when it comes to any kind of suspension motion)?...not only front, but also rear now, given all that irs activity.
In lifting the back end with shackles/air shocks was more due to necessity and function.


Cornering was way different (as in cornering didn't really matter), but how were you able to put the widest wheels possible to handle the big torque and clear the fender wells?

Rim technology with offsets wasn't at the stage it is today. Tubbing the rear wasn't big and shortening the rear axle wasn't something many did or find shops to do it. Figure expense in there as well. The internet helps a lot today as well.

Today if you want to find out how and who can do it, it's just a mouse click away. World wide shipping. Back then you had to rely on what could be done locally.


The look? Well think back then of how the funny cars were marketed? Jungle Jim, Snowman, The Hawaiian Punch, Snake/ Mongoose,.... etc. Who didn't have a model of a funny car at one point back then and wanted their cars to look like that?? Luckly I grew up in this era and got to meet and see all these iconic cars and drivers run.

Things today are built to work Randycat99. The lawyers are now involved and with the way people sue over every little thing in the States, they have to CYA. Part is look, but priority is function and safety. Same reason they did it back in the day and we all had to modify the stance.

Just my thoughts on the subject.

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