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It is hard to get a good sounding ehaust on a modern car. Just yesterday an '05 Mustang GT drove by while my wife and I were out for a walk. She commented on the car's color, I commented on how wimpy the exhaust sounded. I drive an '04 Mach 1, and it has new exhaust from the manifolds back, and it sounds better than it did when new, but still doesn't have the sound of the old big block supercars from the late '60s. It is possible to make a modern car loud, but loud isn't the same as having a good deep tone and rumble.
It is hard to get a good sounding ehaust on a modern car. Just yesterday an '05 Mustang GT drove by while my wife and I were having a good deep tone and rumble.
Well, how about drilling a few tiny holes here & there ;would that work and/or be "legal" ?
It is hard to get a good sounding ehaust on a modern car. Just yesterday an '05 Mustang GT drove by while my wife and I were out for a walk. She commented on the car's color, I commented on how wimpy the exhaust sounded. I drive an '04 Mach 1, and it has new exhaust from the manifolds back, and it sounds better than it did when new, but still doesn't have the sound of the old big block supercars from the late '60s. It is possible to make a modern car loud, but loud isn't the same as having a good deep tone and rumble.
Exhaust work alone isn't the answer. Part of what made those old school big block cars sound so sweet was the motor pushin out that exhaust. Today's motors are more high rev than the old big blocks used to be. You don't have the kind of lift needed to give off that distinctive rumble. Add some aggressive cams and you might come pretty close though.
These new motors are making a lot of power for their size. More power per cubic inch than the old school motors. They must be using cams that allow these motors to breath pretty good. I agree they don't seem to have much of a "lope" to them.
Isn't the catalytic converter the biggest thing that has changed? It is in the exahusts path.
Yes, its mainly the cams in modern engines that makes them sound less menacing than the old big blocks. But as you said, these cams are designed for higher rev engines....so you've got a much different profile than the high lift cam of an old big block. But this is where alot of the differences lie.
Also, in my experience, removing the cats, or going with higher flow cats on a modern V8 tends to just make the exhaust louder.........which isn't always a better sound. But it does depend on the setup of the vehicle's motor as to whether having the cats out of the way really makes it a better tone and idle.
As I said, IMO...the differences mainly lie in the motors themselves, rather than the piping that they breathe out of.
I drive an '04 Mach 1, and it has new exhaust from the manifolds back, and it sounds better than it did when new, but still doesn't have the sound of the old big block supercars from the late '60s. It is possible to make a modern car loud, but loud isn't the same as having a good deep tone and rumble.
Of course it wont sound that way, your motor is not a big block. Hell, small blocks of that era didnt sound like big blocks of that era.
The 80's Mustangs had an air pump and they always popped when you revved them, I always thought they sounded anemic. IMO the new Stang sounds very good and sounds more like a 60's/70's small block Ford. Very unique sound that I find pleasing.
Mopar small blocks sounded very good also. Hell, they all sounded good back then!
Ok, so the 5.7/6.1 is never going to sound like a 440. It seems like current aftermarket exhaust manufacturers are going after the higher pitch Mustang sound. The Hemi must have it's own sound! Mopar muscle mag has done a few Charger exhaust upgrades. I wonder if they have sound clips?
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& there ;would that work and/or be "legal" ?
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