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Old 11-19-2012, 05:59 PM
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I didn't think you could cut the traction control completely off on an R/T??????
R/T auto with STP or R/T 6-speed you can indeed. 2011+ makes it easier than pre-2011 since you no longer have to do the "key trick."
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Traction control is a bit different from stability control. You can turn off TC in any Challenger by just pressing Mr. Squiggly button...then your rear tires are free to go up in smoke any way you choose (in fact, even default-on TC allows you to burnout in a straight line quite liberally). What remains is base level stability control. All those extra contortions are about shutting off stability control completely. The only real thing you are missing out on by not doing that is very wide power slides and the prospect of a full 180 if you get "too" careless.

Just using the Mr. Squiggly button is really all you need to open the car up to a fair amount hooligan activity. I've never tried it, but I'm guessing a full 360 deg circle is possible as long as you are staying in one place.
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The only real thing you are missing out on by not doing that is very wide power slides and the prospect of a full 180 if you get "too" careless.
They are soooooooooo fun though!
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Yes, if you are in an area where there is room to do it, I wouldn't mind indulging it a bit. Unfortunately, there isn't any place like that for me around here, so it is mostly an academic topic for me.
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If you had anti-spin it would be on the sticker as an option for either $100 or $195 I have seen both prices on 2013 stickers, and if you look under the car the anti-spin Getrag housing is aluminum and it has a flat bottom with cooling fins, the regular housing is cast iron and no fins.
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Thanks for the great answers guys, I really appreciate it. I have been turning off the squiggle TC button, idk anything about the STP you guys are talking about or holding anything down for 5secs?
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My TC button dont need held in, just one push. I also had both tires burn with the open rear end. Common.
However at times in the water box, as one tire would stick causing the peg leg to show itself. I did go to an srt lsd. Very happy.
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Holding it down will turn the ESP off...
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What is the ESP and whats the difference between it and traction control being off?
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Electronic stability protection...helps keep the car in check while TC is off...you turn ESP off and she gets as loose as Sally at the strip club...

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