General Challenger DiscussionThis section contains general discussion about the Dodge Challenger. If it does not fit into a more specific area, it probably belongs in here. (Dodge Challenger General Discussion)
What if I told you guys.... that the Barracuda program was scrapped? And that the Challenger will continue with its nameplate AT LEAST till 2017? What would you think about that?
BTW, keep in mind the date folks... would CHRYSLER (not Dodge... let's call it chrysler cause they all work for the same company) really build two separate two door models? This is NOT 1970... It's 2013.
If you guys take what I said... and think about it for a little, you will realize.... Chrysler would never build 2 2-doors at once, in essence they would be competing with each other.
They already make 2-2 door models........The Dodge Challenger and the Chrysler 200 Convertible
You know, I probably would have kept my '09 Challenger SRT8 -- IF IT DIDN'T LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THE '11 CHALLLENGER SRT8 THAT REPLACED IT!
Food for thought...
Yes, but would you buy a 2014/2015 that also looked exactly like your then 6 year old car? I know I won't buy another Challenger that looks exactly like the one I already have. I want a new car when I buy a new car (or new to me).
They can make changes without ruining the looks. Even make it slightly smaller and still keep the aggressive stance. Or they could screw the whole thing up. Curious to see what they do. I know I'll be looking for another car in a year or 2, so I'm waiting to see what they come out with.
I keep on hearing questions, are we going to do the Cuda? Are we going to do the new Challenger ? Every time you do things like this it imposes a huge burden on the rest of the portfolio to make sure that you make up for that sin because, technically, in the new CO2 world, you are committing a sin when you build one of those cars. The other way to look at this is if you want to sin you pay for it, right? It’s like gambling. You can have the vice; just show up at the bar and pay the price.
I keep on telling our people that if they insist on having this in the power lineup then they need to get pricing that effectively incorporates the penalty associated with transgression. The buyer has got to pay it, right? It’s like having a guzzler tax. Now you need to have a CO2 tax which allows you to effectively pollute, which is somewhat unethical in a way but at least it compensates the system for the loss at the portfolio level of other cars that we could’ve sold instead. We’re learning how to do this. If I told you that it’s a perfect solution I’d be lying to you. As you can tell, this is part of a heated debate that goes on at product committees pretty frequently.
Performance? The 200 Convertible offers the same level of performance against its "perceived" competition as the Challenger does against its. Just saying
I love my Challenger, hands down one of the best looking cars on the road. Best looking - if not performing - out of the Camaro and Mustang.
How would I tweak it to make it better? Lighten it, shrink it, improve quality (which I think has improved some since my 2009 was built) Then maybe I trade up in 2015...
I want a kick ass performance leader like the 1970 Hemi was, not second fiddle in performance to GT Mustangs let alone Shelby's!
__________________ Johnnymopar
2009 SRT8 SS 6spd.
2012 RAM 1500 Laramie
Last edited by johnnymopar; 01-16-2013 at 09:33 PM.
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