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So then are you saying the Trac Pac cars have more wheel hop so one is better off with leaving that option off? What about the 20 inch wheel option that comes with the 3.92 rear end? or go with the 3.73 rear end with 18 inch tires?
For the money you pay for it, the STP is THE best option for an R/T. Improves steering, handling, braking very well. It stiffens up the ride and makes it more sporty, too. It was a must have option when I searched for an R/T.

I have 3.92s with 20" wheels and my wheel hop HORRIBLY. It's sad I can't really drive the thing as aggressively as I'd like. I'm hoping different tires reduces the wheel hop. I am not comfortable spending so much for a hop not kit, and have to cut into the stock suspension, as well as finding someone who can install it.

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For the money you pay for it, the STP is THE best option for an R/T. Improves steering, handling, braking very well. It stiffens up the ride and makes it more sporty, too. It was a must have option when I searched for an R/T.

I have 3.92s with 20" wheels and my wheel hop HORRIBLY. It's sad I can't really drive the thing as aggressively as I'd like. I'm hoping different tires reduces the wheel hop. I am not comfortable spending so much for a hop not kit, and have to cut into the stock suspension, as well as finding someone who can install it.
It makes me wonder what if you got the 3.73 rear end on R/T Classic would that have made the difference and the 18 inch wheels if that combo is possible?
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It makes me wonder what if you got the 3.73 rear end on R/T Classic would that have made the difference and the 18 inch wheels if that combo is possible?
Could be. You might want to take a poll and ask folks about their experiences. I think you will find across the board, the the 20" Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar tires wheel hop horribly.

I am swiching to 18" wheels with snow tires, but am not about to spin those since the tread is so soft.
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So then are you saying the Trac Pac cars have more wheel hop so one is better off with leaving that option off? What about the 20 inch wheel option that comes with the 3.92 rear end? or go with the 3.73 rear end with 18 inch tires?
The fastest R/T M6's at the track has been non-STP cars and they don't have wheel hop. This is just what we have noticed locally.

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My 12 rt 6-SP has yellow bilsteins,and good year f-1 tires. I bought it from 350 miles away,and had it shipped.They did not give me a window sticker,but it supposedly did not have stp.It only had 20 inch wheels,and mopar interior package.It hops terribly.
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Could be. You might want to take a poll and ask folks about their experiences. I think you will find across the board, the the 20" Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar tires wheel hop horribly.

I am swiching to 18" wheels with snow tires, but am not about to spin those since the tread is so soft.
I never did care for Good Year tires on any of the cars I have had where the GY came from factory.
It sounds like 18" wheels is the way to go without the Trac Pac with 6 spd. manual.
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The fastest R/T M6's at the track has been non-STP cars and they don't have wheel hop. This is just what we have noticed locally.
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I did not get the STP on my 12 R/T. Why? my experience tells me that larger wheels weigh more and a firmer suspension has less weight transfer. Also a taller sidewall on a tire will help with traction.

Now I have added the 20 inch envy wheels with the GY F1. Compared to the factory 18 inch combo the only difference I feel is the ride is a bit harsher, they both wheel hop.

The 18 inch M&H darg radials hook well at the strip, so when I go to the track I switch the 18's back on.

I think if you are getting a classic R/T, the extra 500 is no big deal. But if you are getting a base R/T it will set you back 1500 due to the wheel upgrade.
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I did not get the STP on my 12 R/T. Why? my experience tells me that larger wheels weigh more and a firmer suspension has less weight transfer. Also a taller sidewall on a tire will help with traction.

Now I have added the 20 inch envy wheels with the GY F1. Compared to the factory 18 inch combo the only difference I feel is the ride is a bit harsher, they both wheel hop.

The 18 inch M&H darg radials hook well at the strip, so when I go to the track I switch the 18's back on.

I think if you are getting a classic R/T, the extra 500 is no big deal. But if you are getting a base R/T it will set you back 1500 due to the wheel upgrade.
Sounds to me that the 18" wheels are the way to go for performance and comfort. So no need to check off the box on "Track Pac" option. $595 isn't that much but don't need it if it makes ride worse and doesn't perform as good as 18" wheels. Better traction in the rain too?
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If the car you are after already has the 20 inch wheels I would get it. If you are after a base model like I was it is a different story.
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