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Track Focused Challenger - T/A?

So this all began when my brother picked up a 2016 Scat Pack 6M. I put about 200 miles on it and had alot of fun, but there's no denying the heft this chassis carries. It doesn't handle badly, but the body roll is quite evident pushing it a little on twisty back roads or on/ off ramps. While the stock 245 tires and 4,200 lbs weight aren't doing it any favors, I decided to jack it up and inspect the suspension. As far as I can tell, the only alignment settings are toe front and rear? I like the double wishbone up front, however, I have no idea what kind of camber curve (if any) comes stock. Needless to say I love the look of the car, engine, interior, and really the entire package, but wanted something that handled a bit better.

I saw the T/A was unveiled and supposedly had more "Track Focused" parts and did some research on it. You get larger brakes, 275s on 9.5" on lighter wheels, 1/2" lowering springs, and other various aesthetic parts for a decent price, however, I feel Dodge kinda came up short here. Their budget is probably tight, but would have been nice to get some aluminum suspension components, reduce the curb weight, added full alignment adjustments, and larger sway bars, etc. IDK, A hemi with an aluminum block, haha. I guess it is what it is.

I like what Chevy did with the Camaro 1LE, but I'm not a fan of the look, the cramped interior, and the terrible visibility. I suppose one could get used to it, but just doesn't generate the excitement the Challenger does. With all of the attention on the drag focused Demon, is there hope Dodge will build something that will cater to the corner carving crowd? I've read the newer platform might use the Alfa Giulia chassis, but who knows what it will offer and that's probably years away.

I'm on the fence about ordering a T/A or just waiting. I saw some of you do some autocrossing and track days and would like to hear your thoughts and recommendations.
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So this all began when my brother picked up a 2016 Scat Pack 6M. I put about 200 miles on it and had alot of fun, but there's no denying the heft this chassis carries. It doesn't handle badly, but the body roll is quite evident pushing it a little on twisty back roads or on/ off ramps. While the stock 245 tires and 4,200 lbs weight aren't doing it any favors, I decided to jack it up and inspect the suspension. As far as I can tell, the only alignment settings are toe front and rear? I like the double wishbone up front, however, I have no idea what kind of camber curve (if any) comes stock. Needless to say I love the look of the car, engine, interior, and really the entire package, but wanted something that handled a bit better.

I saw the T/A was unveiled and supposedly had more "Track Focused" parts and did some research on it. You get larger brakes, 275s on 9.5" on lighter wheels, 1/2" lowering springs, and other various aesthetic parts for a decent price, however, I feel Dodge kinda came up short here. Their budget is probably tight, but would have been nice to get some aluminum suspension components, reduce the curb weight, added full alignment adjustments, and larger sway bars, etc. IDK, A hemi with an aluminum block, haha. I guess it is what it is.

I like what Chevy did with the Camaro 1LE, but I'm not a fan of the look, the cramped interior, and the terrible visibility. I suppose one could get used to it, but just doesn't generate the excitement the Challenger does. With all of the attention on the drag focused Demon, is there hope Dodge will build something that will cater to the corner carving crowd? I've read the newer platform might use the Alfa Giulia chassis, but who knows what it will offer and that's probably years away.

I'm on the fence about ordering a T/A or just waiting. I saw some of you do some autocrossing and track days and would like to hear your thoughts and recommendations.
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I never really thought of the Challenger as a track car but with the new Demon coming out perhaps that car will give you what you desire.

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To get a truly road course/auto cross oriented car to compete with the 1LE you will have to look at the aftermarket, a TA SRT or Hellcat is a great starting point but to compete with a car that is tailored for the road course from the factory like that you will need to go beyond what Dodge is willing to do. Dodge is focused on 1/4 mile focused cars from the factory like the demon, and these cars can be a ton of fun on the road course, but they don't seem interested in trying to compete with the z28 or 1LE. We love road racing and have a ton of great mods to make these cars handle even better and lighten them with a lot more on the way

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I agree about the T/A falling a bit short in that regard. I wouldn't mind it costing a lot more if it meant a lot more capability.

One of the best things about driving a Challenger is getting people to say "Wow I had no idea those cars could handle that good". It has happened, and as said above, the potential for massive improvements is there. Dodge just doesn't think it's worth it to go above and beyond for road course type use when 1) They already have the Viper ACR which holds all the lap records, and 2) Not a lot of people would buy it, sadly.

The G-platform Challenger, if/when it happens, is still a ways off yet like you said. But in the meantime there is plenty of aftermarket support for the current car if you want to go nuts with it.
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