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Old 12-24-2012, 10:54 AM
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Haha! Touche! Wrong political inclinations, though, and... no money there. I'm not correcting the guy, though, as his point of view is valid (his dismissal of others' isn't) just articulating a counterpoint, but it's a fine line.
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i still love you though.....

god i wish my car had a 3.73 gear
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Now that was an on-topic gripe. Me too (the gear part!).

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"On topic" gripe, OK.

If I was buying a new Challenger today, I would like to see the R/TC package with just a "392" option, wider Heritage rear wheels, and a few gear choices for the 5A.
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"On topic" gripe, OK.
Oh, I'm 100% with you on the other stuff, like the TC, rocker panels claddings, $hit metal, etc. It is off-topic, though, as Litos was pointing out, but worth mentioning in this thread. I've been vocal about Chrysler spending more money on improving quality rather than providing us with the fluff many demand since I joined. Forget more options; build a better car first, has always been my mantra here.
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Vinyl interiors were just the cover service material. Although it was very easy to clean it was also very hot to sit on if you had bare skin exposed on a hot day. Vinyl roofs, must be a subjective choice because I never found them appealing in any way but to each his own I guess. To me VR's just did a much better job of hiding the ever growing rust spots that lay underneath them. By the time most of the said rust spots had eaten their way through to to the surface where you could plainly see them it was too late to do anything about them. Besides none of the high line sports luxury cat manufacturers even make them for these and other obvious reasons.
As for roll up windows, my last car to have those was my 87 Grand National (I special ordered it that way). Truthfully the power window motors present in the GM G Body made the already heavy 2 door cars even heavier to open. That said with the possible exception of the work trim level of pick up trucks they don't exist any more. You can't order them no matter how much you beg & plead them to so my advice is to y'all just get over it and move on down the road. Its an unwinible battle.
As for me, I like all the new technology, I'm trying my very best to embrace it and to adapt to it as best as I can. And while I haven't mastered everything I'm making slight improvement every other day or so. Y'all should try it, helps keep your brain functioning by learning something new each day you'll be better for it.
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PS - What's up with the cheap metal complaints? Do y'all know something that I don't?

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Forget more options; build a better car first
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Besides none of the high line sports luxury cat manufacturers even make them for these and other obvious reasons.
You otherwise make a good case, but this sentence says a lot about your frame of reference. None of those guys makes retro cars either (discounting the 911 that hardly ever changed and only improved with age, something I highly respect and consider careful progress respectful of heritage).

The bottom line is that tastes are formed when young so based on our respective ages we'll all have different takes on what looks good (a kid born in this millenium may end up stating in all seriousness that a Prius represents the epitome of style...). Vinyl roofs and excessive chrome trim are products of an era of superfluous coverings, just like fedoras and tie clips are. Guys who like them today are not arguing practicality, mind you, they just miss a certain sense of style. No one's pushing for that stuff on modern cars as it would be ridiculous; we're just fantasizing about giving a retro car an even more period look is all. I'm quite certain that your reaction is an age thing as I'd laugh at someone requesting a hand crank or spoke wheels. Now if Ford remade the Model T...

I love the look of the Mopar T-handle, but won't do it because the metal would get too hot in LA and I enjoy the feel of the stock knob (lots of AutoStick action), but when I see them in members' cars I don't deride, I drool. See what I mean?
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PS - What's up with the cheap metal complaints? Do y'all know something that I don't?
I don't know that it's cheap, but it sure is thin (a complaint on all full size Chrysler vehicles - my Charger was the same way). Even if you're extra careful not leaning on it or not waxing too vigorously, not everybody is (valets, detailers, mechanics, touchy-feely gawkers, etc.). And then there's a suspicion that the way the panels are glued on the structure causes areas to warp and dent 'on their own' (flex, temperature, etc.). I see some of that on mine and it's so minor that I call it 'character' (), but not everybody, understandably, feels the same way.
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Ok, maybe more of a recommendation than an option, but I think all 6M's should have come standard with a hand E-brake located just below the center armrest. That would eliminate the current juggling act with your left foot between 2 pedals when parking.
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