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Hellcat tires

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So, as per common forum etiquette, I did a few searches on here for this answer, and the best ones I could find are either too old (from before the Hellcat came out), or don't give enough of a satisfying answer to my questions, so here I am asking them:

I'm in a process of moving to Canada soon.
One of the first things I will go after once I'm there, is my very own Hellcat.
But being from a warm climate country (Brazil), I'm expecting I will face a different situation over there. Namely, snow.
Now, I'm not stranger to snow, having lived in Boston for 3 years, and I did drive there quite a bit. Sedans, vans, trucks, from a mini cooper up to a Dodge RAM and even moving trucks.

Now, onto the Hellcat.
Watching many videos and reviews and such, I've been noticing a common tune. Every reviewer seems to say the Hellcat is great on a straight line but doesn't do as well on corners. But it still does a surprisingly good job for such a heavy car, thanks to the 707hp.
So obviously, my first thought is changing the tires to something better.
The few pieces of advice I've seen, suggest changing them to wider varieties, and with different composition, for more grip, traction and all that good stuff.
But, for SNOW, I'm under the impression that the same rules do not apply, since a tire that improves traction on wet environments is far different than a tire that would do the same job on a warm, dry road.

So my question is: Getting the car brand new and thus being able to use the stock tires to get some cash back, what is the best compromise, if I want to go up to, say, a 305 tire on all fours? Is that even an option in this situation? Is it a good idea? Should I go wider on the back tires instead?
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Honestly, my thoughts would be to garage it over the winter for the conditions your Hellcat would be subjected too aid in deterioration. This past winter I had gone up to PEI Canada to visit some relatives and am, like yourself planning to relocate up there in a few years. After witnessing the rot on quite a few cars which see that very weather there was no question that she was going into hibernation from autumn to spring.
If you do plan to drive it during the winter tread width isn't so much a factor as the ability to acquire, plus maintain traction. A 305 tire should work just fine so long as you keep the HP to conservative levels and employ winter compound or all Season tires.

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The Continental Extremecontact DWS 06 has good snow performance for a Ultra High Performance All-Season tire. It does not come in a 305/20, but does have a 295, but you need at least a 10" wide wheel for the 295, min 10.5 for the 315

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...06XL&tab=Sizes

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I'd get 2 sets of tires. One for summer and one for winter. For snow, the skinny tire the better. More pressure per inch to push the tire down to ground thru the snow. They also kinda slice through the snow.

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Yeah garage during snow times sounds great actually.

This way I can just have a second car for winter, and keep my Hellcat equipped with the best summer stuff which is what we want anyway.
heheh great.

But away from the snow subject for a second, is wider tires the only thing, now thinking about giving it the tires it deserves?
Since most reviews seem to complain about the tires... but they never suggest which ones to get instead.
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If you plan on running your Hellcat in winter here, you're gonna want a separate set of winter tires. Trust me. Unless you're moving to the warm part of Canada, like the Vancouver area.

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Yeah garage during snow times sounds great actually.

This way I can just have a second car for winter, and keep my Hellcat equipped with the best summer stuff which is what we want anyway.
heheh great.

But away from the snow subject for a second, is wider tires the only thing, now thinking about giving it the tires it deserves?
Since most reviews seem to complain about the tires... but they never suggest which ones to get instead.
I kept my stock Hellcat wheels for the front and kept with the OEM 275/40 20 tire. You may have clearance issues if you try to go bigger plus will need a wider wheel up front. I got Hellcat replicas for the back in 10.5" width from Factory Reproductions and mounted some 315/35 20's on the back. Have to be careful which brand you get as some tires are wider than others in 315. There may still be some wheel well modding to do if they rub but not difficult to do. The 305's will fit great on a 10.5" rim but it's not the same height as the 275/40 20's and the 315/35 20 tires. That combo is the same size so odometer and speedometer are accurate. the 315's made a big difference in traction for the rear over the OEM P-Zero hockey pucs.

I agree with the others that you need a summer and winter set of tires for up there! A lot of guys are using the Nitto NT05 315/35ZR20 for summer in the rear, just be a little careful in the rain but also realize they are rated "W" for maximum speed (168 MPH) vs the OEM "(Y)" spec (186+ MPH) tires that come on the Hellcat. The tires I got are "Y" rated so max is 186 but that is fine with me.
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So far, from what you have said, 2 sets of tires would be the way to go.
At least 2 sets for the rear, since, although they're not rated the best, the stock tires can be used for the front, for winter driving.
The stock rears of course should not be on a 707 HP performance car for any type of spirited driving.
I have an SRT with the identical stock tires and find them inadequate for my lesser HP car.
Many HC owners I've seen go with Track Radials, which can be used for the street or drag strip, if desired. Of course being a sticky, better traction tire the track radial don't last as long.
I plan on getting a set of Mickey Thompson ET street S/S track Radials which are street legal, but pretty good for the drag strip. But you can go for something with much better traction then those stock tires without going to a track radial, if you don't plan on requiring that level of traction. As I understand it, even going with the same 275/40 size as stock, the track radials would be a big plus for traction.
A couple of examples of popular non track radials with good performance are, the Continental Extreme Contact DW, or Michelin Pilot Super Sport.
EDIT: And the Atturo tires that "txborn58" got, I've heard are good traction tires for the money.


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That's what Mark Trostle ran on his Hellcat .... Yokohama Ice Guards.


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