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I may be living dangerously, but generally I don't fold to inappropriate behavior on the road. Yeah, maybe there were a few times I might have been shot if it was the wrong person acting like like a jerk, but I will fight for right. I do tone it down one notch when I am in the Challenger though, I'll admit it, because I do want to minize the odds of getting keyed when I park.

About the zipper approach. I'm proud of Wisconsin then, because it is an up and coming traffic approach, but it is rarely explained adequately. I have heard a few stories now of signs that have explained it. Usually, it is not guided enough. The zipper approach does work, because otherwise, people move right at different times, really putting those who merge right early at the biggest disadvantage. If the zipper approach is strictly adhered to, it is not only efficient, but it is fair to all. If people are doing the variable merge at different times, then me and the semis are usually working to block the last minute bypassers by getting halfway into the lane that is closing, once it is clearly late and self-centered to be merging last minute. If signs and state policy clarify use of the zipper approach, I am 100% for it.
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Bosox, I agree with your general point here about people not accepting inappropriate behavior, but if you ever really want to be taken seriously, guess which part of your post (and I've seen you do it over and over and over again) you might want to hold back on? By the way, what's the significance of 40 years in your mind?
I've heard it said that in 2 generations, people can be made to accept anything as the norm and even desirable so 40 years is about right.
When I first heard that statement, I thought it was silly but as time has passed and I've watched what happened, it is correct. Yes there are always a few that won't be programmed because they think things through and make their own decisions but those are fewer and fewer.
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For anyone who has not been aware that the zipper merge is a gaining a moderate amount official attention, here is a Minnesota DOT explanation.

Zipper Merge - Minnesota Department of Transportation

To work, it needs formal DOT advocacy and signage, because it has to be near 100% understood and adhered to in order to wrok effectively.
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you have to drive around thinking/knowing that everyone has a gun in their car.

you can have a gun in your car in Texas and you don't even need a concealed license...
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ragtop: most folks do not understand the insidious creep of liberal thought. The 40 years is essentially the time frame since the adoption of LBJ's "The Great Society" movement; which essentially postulated that poverty was not a personal (reduction of personal accountability) responsibility, but that society was the source of the poverty - and, if enough $$ was spent/invested, poverty would vanish. Sadly, the basic premise - which flies in the fact of what? 10,000 years of human civilization? - was grossly faulty. Humans can be corrupted fairly easily - free stuff is the drug of choice for liberals - except it is NOT free - it is funds taken from somebody elses hard earned money. Yes, many things that liberals advocate for are valuable and exceptionally charitable - but, they are NOT affordable - as aptly evidenced by the current yearly federal deficit and the debt this nation has piled up. Liberals RARELY discuss balancing the budget - it is not their purpose in participating in the election process. Thus, we are at the point that all the freebee the liberals have advocated for are NOW creating poverty - due to the attraction of free stuff as opposed the shrinking benefit of working - especially at entry and minimum wage jobs. Why do you think drunk drivers are now at the point that they blame the bar for allowing them to drive off? (currently happening in GA); BTW, the actual poverty level since the inception of LBJ"s Great Society initiative has not decreased. When you factor in the hostility to religion and the support of abortion by liberals, you have a very unappealing political movement - which is bereft of virtue and citizens pursuing virtuous behavior (the recent destruction of the housing market is an excellent example - the entire nation was attempting to game the system - the chickens came home to roost - unfortunately for Obama - exactly at the time he took office). However, another portion of liberaldom - more so with the rise of effective feminism - is political correctness - this intentionally suppresses honest discussion of the myriad of NEGATIVE consequences (unintended?) of more and more folks thinking that liberalism is normal.

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regarding the zipper, when I was in HS in drivers ed, back in 1982/83, they taught us that merging via the zipper is the most efficient way. It just those in society who think they can exploit those of us too stupid to actually follow the rules, simply game that system too. Narcissism is the preponderant character motivation - which with twitter and all the other crap going on now - is actually being fueled by modern society.
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BTW, if you ever take a comparative politics class, they discuss regional political motivations. IN the Wisconsin/Minnesota area, it is morality that motivates the citizenry - NJ area is individualism and in the SE it is traditionalism.
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Let them in, it just feels so much better when you blow by them later.
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BTW, if you ever take a comparative politics class, they discuss regional political motivations. IN the Wisconsin/Minnesota area, it is morality that motivates the citizenry - NJ area is individualism and in the SE it is traditionalism.
As for the West Coast, it's anything-goes-ism!
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