Suggestion for DCX: dealer markup crackdown

[SRTpusher]

Originally Posted by LOCOMOTION

... I've offered to pay as much as $1,000 over MSRP! Thats more than fair profit. Good luck to all you guys and your orders, thanks for listening!

but what about the 15 people that I have in line that offered to pay $10,000 over?

anytime there is a shortage of an in-demand product, the price will go up.

it is like the video game systems. retailers couldn't price over sticker, so they bundled them up, or always sold out. then people would resell them for a profit.

why should the dealer, who takes the overhead risk, not be allowed to profit? if people are willing to pay $10k - $25k over sticker, then why not let them charge the MARKET VALUE. to the person in sweden and others citing other premium cars - those cars have a much higher markup. what dodge should have done is invoiced these the same but put the MSRP at $49,995. This would have given the dealers a pre built in markup and some good negotiating room.

i find it funny, like some others have stated, that no one has a problem negotiating a deal UNDER MSRP. someone said its due to the "actual value" of the car.

sounds to me like Chrysler undervalued the car and the dealers are just going with the market.

as much as you want, you can't have it both ways. you can't say that msrp isn't the real value on one car, then say msrp is the real value on the challenger.

the true value of anything is what someone else is willing to pay for it.

[LOCOMOTION]

Originally Posted by DanRealtor

Have you ever visited a dealership that offers "One Price", "The price on the windshield is what you pay". Lou Grubb is one here in AZ. The "No Haggle" approach may appeal to some people: Not Me! I won't shop at any dealership that has this approach.

While many of you are griping about "Market Adjustments" or any other term to describe dealers selling cars for over MSRP, I haven't heard any of you insisting that dealers should have to stick to MSRP and not sell for less (including those of you giving opinions on what's best for DCX: 8>6...). I still don't understand why any or all of you consider this "Price Gouging". And, as staed previously, we are all able to wait or travel (or both) to get the car we want at the price we want, or not buy at all.

The term "Price Gouging" IMO is appropriate when used to describe merchants taking advantage of peole in times of disaster (Katrina...) for basic necessities (food, water, fuel, tp....) when the consumer really cannot do without or travel to get the items elsewhere. Under those conditions I believe it is appropriate for the government to intervene. When describing the pricing strategies of dealers I don't think the term is appropriate.


Dan

Sorry DanRealtor, you are totally wrong on this particular car....Why you ask , well if you'll take the time to carefully read my other posts on this forum site about all my recent experiences in trying to order, place a deposit and or buy one of these Challengers you will see. Its price gouging because most all of these dealers are playing games with the orders and not obeying the manufactures rules of placing orders with real customers names and addresses. Instead they use ficticious names and addresses to order them in and then sell them off to the highest bidder on a list of really dumb customers that have put large deposits down just to be on their list. This proves to me that its NOT the law of " supply and demand" but the law of " the dealers controlling the supply thus greating the need to pay a price gouging price" based on the demand that lots of us would like to buy the car but can't because these greedy gealers are holding all the cards. Buy the way if you really care E-mail me and I can supply you with all the info you need to prove my point, IE 2 months research of contacting 37 dealers in both rich and poor areas with all of them doing the same tactics. You tell me? What else do you call these tactics or what else copuld it be????

LOCOMOTION......E-mail at wboyd18993@aol.com

[LOCOMOTION]

Originally Posted by SRTpusher

but what about the 15 people that I have in line that offered to pay $10,000 over?

anytime there is a shortage of an in-demand product, the price will go up.

it is like the video game systems. retailers couldn't price over sticker, so they bundled them up, or always sold out. then people would resell them for a profit.

why should the dealer, who takes the overhead risk, not be allowed to profit? if people are willing to pay $10k - $25k over sticker, then why not let them charge the MARKET VALUE. to the person in sweden and others citing other premium cars - those cars have a much higher markup. what dodge should have done is invoiced these the same but put the MSRP at $49,995. This would have given the dealers a pre built in markup and some good negotiating room.

i find it funny, like some others have stated, that no one has a problem negotiating a deal UNDER MSRP. someone said its due to the "actual value" of the car.

sounds to me like Chrysler undervalued the car and the dealers are just going with the market.

as much as you want, you can't have it both ways. you can't say that msrp isn't the real value on one car, then say msrp is the real value on the challenger.

the true value of anything is what someone else is willing to pay for it.

Come on SRT PUSHER, do you think I and alot of others don't know about the " Dealers Hold Back" the dealers built in profit? Also I suggest you take a few minutes maybe to read my last post here which shows what I've found out about the sales BS of " the law of supply and demand". On this particular auto its a real joke. We are not that dumb out here especially when we start doing our homework on what the dealers are trying to do or get away with!!!!!!!! OK so all the rich car collectors can have them and I'll just wait till the 2009,s or like some others on here have said , maybe a " Bullit Mustang" or a " LS6 Camaro" in 2009" . Hate to stop being a loyal mopar man , Good luck to all, LOCOMOTION

[JustACelt]

Well to top things off our government by the government, government by the people in Washington State seems to be falling by the wayside, is trying to slap a tax / fee on what size engine is in your vehicle a chart that was released showed like 600 bucks for a 6 litre engine or larger , whether this was going to be a licensing type rape err fee or purchase type rape err... fee/tax I am not sure i didnt have time to read the whole rip off, It may have gotten canned by now I sure hope so. We finally forced them in this state to go over to a more people friendly licensing fee system but they keep trying of course to find ways to go around it.

[sorbs]

Okay,

Let's look at it like this. Let's say Chrysler mandates that all Challengers can't be sold for $1.00 over MSRP. I can already read the thread...
"I can't get one because they're all sold out!"
"Dealers fight in streets for inventory!"
"Stabbing and shooting at local automall because someone cut in line of person living on the lot for three weeks..."

One word...iPhone. You can buy them now. I went in and bought one the second day they were out. There is hope for the hopeless. Gas is going to be $4.00 a gallon when this is available. The 08 is a limited run SRT-8 with the same running gear as the 2005 SRT-8s. It is a two-door. . .and it is going to be north of $50k. Just like the original SRT-8s which can be picked up for a song right now. Be patient. They will only get better with age too.

[SIX-PAK]

+ 1 on that - like I said good things come to those who wait !
more colors , better improved new generation Hemi engines , more more more goodies .... less less less money heheh

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